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by Preston on 29 October 2008 - 21:10
I have been told certain firms are doing very advanced research and won't talk about it. You can bet they think there is going to be big money in these gene switch treatments sometime in the future.
by hodie on 29 October 2008 - 21:10
Preston,
Of course, it is all about money....you know that and so do I and so do the companies, universities and anyone else involved. It is no different than the rest of the world. Everything, whether one agrees or not, is about MONEY, and ethics or anything else be damned. But, on the other hand, it costs millions and millions of dollars to develop new technology, new drugs, new treatments etc. So one cannot be surprised when entities hope to recover their money.
by Preston on 30 October 2008 - 00:10
I first posted on this subject back in 2006: http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/bulletins_read/41070.html
Sorry, but there is a great deal of secrecy on the research that is going on in this field. Sure, we all can understand the need for trade secrets and confidentiality agreements as a necessary part of product development in these companies. Yes, I agree Hodie that they often have to invest many millions even before they ever get any marketable product and sometimes never do. The fact is that I have it from a good source that many of the treatments for certain genetic disease conditions which are now being developed are quite patentable because they are custom designed ways to alter, remove or activate certain gene triggers in the dark dna. Some involve nanoparticles and can serve as robot devices small enough to work within an actual chromosome and allele. Check out what a nanoparticle is if you don't know its size.
And this secrecy is not only in the biogenetics companies, but the drug companies who support them and do their own research and in certain top secret gov't funded programs on mindkontrol and space health, not to mention at least one black budget funded project involving animal/human hybrids (chimeras) involving injection of certain animal gene fragments into human genetic materials to create the so-called "super soldier".
In addition, I was told that Mayo clinic has a special genetics lab where they are doing human/pig gene splicing research to grow parts for transplantation into humans and this has been reported in the news. Mayo's work is actually advancing human health. But I don't like the idea of modifying soldiers muscle genes to be part animal for additional endurance and strength or splicing snake gene fragments into the brain's nerve bundles to create hyper-aggression. Remember the movie "Jacob's Ladder". It was based on actual experiments with special types of "brain stem surgery" and use of an actual "BZ" derivative on certain "specially selected" soldiers during the Vietnam war. Most were so overly aggressive they started fighting and killed each other during an experimental attack on the enemy. At least that was the cover story. If you want to understand the dark side of S7 down at the 7th level underground, rent this movie. That's as far as I will go with this subject.
by Preston on 30 October 2008 - 02:10
Kalibeck, your were sure ahead of the times when you did your research. Such thoughts were ridiculed in the dog genetics books 25 years ago and even recently.
by AKVeronica60 on 30 October 2008 - 02:10
This possibilityof using dark DNA was discussed on the Discover Channel in their evolution series, concerning using birds to make dinosaurs by turning on their "dark DNA". It was believed that all the genetics necessary to make dinosaurs were present in birds but those ancient genes were "turned off". By manipulating and turning on these genes they could make dinosaurs.
Veronica

by Kalibeck on 30 October 2008 - 02:10
Preston, it was actually a paper on human behaviour & the possible link of maternal stress to aggression & disease in children. What I found, that the continuing differences in behaviour & health in rats continued into the offspring of the rats that were studied for so many generations that a genetic change was suggested. My professor argued that the changes were "nurture, not nature", but I disagreed. I got a very grudgingly given 'B' on the paper, which kind of pissed me off. It was a lot of work, & we were supposed to be graded on our research techniques, not our conclusions. I guess I rippled his little pond. jh
by Preston on 30 October 2008 - 02:10
Kalibeck, you should have gotten an A+ . Your discovery was too threatening to the existing order and still is to most who teach genetics. Very good research and quite original. Congratulations.

by wuzzup on 30 October 2008 - 02:10
preston can you bioenginer some of your brain to me?
by Preston on 30 October 2008 - 03:10
I am just average intellect with a great deal of interest in researching things. Whether you agree with them or not, Bob-O, Hodie, Uglydog, and Abhay are the intellectual giants on this forum.

by Kalibeck on 30 October 2008 - 03:10
Thank you, Preston. I was studying the results of another students research; I did not have the time to breed & grow generations of rats myself. The other student, a neuroendocrinologist, drew a whole other conclusion to her researxh, more along the lines of continued inappropriate adrenal responce to the original stressor causing maladaptations....she, too, poo-poo'd the evidence of genetic changes when I submitted a copy of my research to her....ah, well. Thanks again. I, personally, think that you are the intellect here. jh
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