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by eichenluft on 07 October 2008 - 13:10

Extra protein can also be built up in the muscles, causing tieing up, muscle cramping and increased chance of muscle pulls and strains.

Why feed more protein than necessary - there are no dogs who need as much protein as cats do.  There are no-grain foods with normal protein levels.

 

molly


snajper69

by snajper69 on 07 October 2008 - 13:10

Not always puppies, have not fully developed boddy function, I read few research on line (don't know where I found, I know it was with regarts to large breed dogs) that puppies don't eleminate the extra protein or calcium :)


snajper69

by snajper69 on 07 October 2008 - 13:10

We need to keep in mind that usually young organisms of any kind don't function at it's 100% capabilities till reach more mature stage of their development (unfortunately I have no idea what would be the correct age for dogs) but I would say under 6 months it is not 100% functional even up to a year. That is just my personal opinion, we all have one :), this is the way I bring up my dogs.


by Larrydee on 07 October 2008 - 13:10

Puppies actually need more protein than adults especially German Shepherds as they are going thru such  rapid growth  at a year old they are pretty much full grown.  That is a lot of growing in a year.    Protein is critical in building muscle and tissue.    Again what do dogs eat in the wild raw meat.    What causes all these deseases our dogs have in my opinion it has a lot to do with the diets we feed them.    Dogs have a very hard time digesting grains they are meat eaters pure and simple just look at their teeth.    

This is a very simple fact.  I have no idea where all these misconceptions come from. But if you want your dog to be happy and healthy feed him a meat based diet that means high protein content.

 


snajper69

by snajper69 on 07 October 2008 - 13:10

Meat dose not have high protein content, raw chicken is at about 22 :) and raw chicken is not dried :) But I agree the best died for your dog is throw him some raw meat :) and he will be healthy like hell :)

But if you can find me a raw chicken with 42% protein content let me know :)


by Larrydee on 07 October 2008 - 13:10

snapier69

                  Go to Orijens web site   www.championpetfoods.com and read their White Paper. This is documented research and debunks all these myths in a scientific manner.

But since German Shepherd puppies are going thru such a rapid growth spurt in their first year of life it is just common sense that they will need more protein.


snajper69

by snajper69 on 07 October 2008 - 13:10

Yes you need protein to graw :) but you don't want rapid growth :) as this puts too much stress on the skeleton :) but any way no point to argue, we all have our own ways :) and they all work just fine for all of us. I would sugest you to use your eyes as your gudie it works the best :) Good luck. I am done with this topic. :) If you want to have discusion about this PM me, I would love to learn as much as I can about nutrition of a dog, and would love to know about your experience, and how it works out for you. :)


snajper69

by snajper69 on 07 October 2008 - 14:10

Thanks I did read their webside, as well as Martinsk9 and you know everyone has an opinon, everyone did their research, and I am not sold on either one. :)

I thnk Orijen is a great food don't misunderstand me but I would not give it to a puppy that is all.

 

When we speak of an adult that is something else.

After 6 months I don't care any more about protein or calcium that much, I keep it in check, but I am not as possess :) That is all.

 


by Larrydee on 07 October 2008 - 14:10

snapier69

                     We are pretty much in agreement.    Until 5 months my puppy was on this diet Urban Wolf  www.urbanwolf.cc mainly because it is not a kibble mixed with raw meat, salmon oil and canine complete.  Only downside it is very pricy.  But at 5 months like her older brother she wouldn't eat the Urban Wolf anymore so I have exchanged Orijen large breed puppy for the Urban Wolf. 

When I bought my puppy my breeder recommeded Martins K-9 formula but my male puppy wouldn't eat it.  That is when I dived into canine research and came up with Urban Wolf/Orijen.

Got to go run my dogs my dogs by the ocean great day for it.    Have fun with this topic.


snajper69

by snajper69 on 07 October 2008 - 15:10

Sounds intresting, I will check it out in detail once I get home :) thanks for the link.

 

And yeah it looks like we are pretty much in agreement.






 


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