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Kalibeck

by Kalibeck on 04 October 2008 - 13:10

What a sad story, I cannot offer anything more than the other posters have already offered, but I will send you & your poor dog my prayers. Please let us know the outcome. jh


by hodie on 04 October 2008 - 15:10

Canine vestibular syndrome is most often seen in elderly dogs. The signs seen would not abate and the dog get better and then worse again. The dog has some sort of neurological problem of unknown origin. It is important to get the dog to someplace that can diagnose the problem if the dog has any chance at all of a positive outcome. 

Good luck.


Mystere

by Mystere on 04 October 2008 - 15:10

An aneurysm rupture in the brain would involve a LOT of pain. Is it possible that he inhaled some grass or weed that has become imbedded in the lungs? I wish you and your dog all the best. Please let us know how this developes.

aristianM

by aristianM on 04 October 2008 - 16:10

I hope he feels better! Its always heart breaking to see a loved one suffering. My prayers are with you!


enlosandes

by enlosandes on 04 October 2008 - 19:10

Hi, this is Suerte's dad checking in. First of all, we truly appreciate everyone's input and kind words and thoughts. Today, we went back to the vet, day 7. Bear in mind we are gringos living outside a small city in Patagonia, Argentina, so things are a bit different here, not to mention a bit of a language issue. Anyways, they told us the blood work actually hadn't come back normal, as we previously had thought. But that it had come back at all. The results should be in Monday.

Today's vet Florencia was on top of things, asked lots of questions, etc.

Here's what we know, etc: New blood work will be done first thing Monday morning. Suerte had a really bad night of shakes/mini siezures last night.  However, by clapping our hands or calling his name loud, he would snap out of it. For that reason, one might think it isn't epilepsy, but rather a central nervous system issue.

Florencia gave us 2 injections of tranquilizer/muscle relaxant to be adminstered through his rear if the siezures/twitching comes back. A few hours later, they began and my wife gave him an injection, which mellowed him out.

Florencia's plan of attack is to identify what exactly it is through the blood paneling, and then prescribe the proper drugs/herbs to combat it.  In true Argentinine fashion, this is what we first asked for last week.

She thinks it is either parvovirus, distember, toxoplasmosis, or partial epilesy.  Suerte is current on all his shots. We rescued another dog 3 years ago, that had Parvovirus and survived. One idea might be that it was passed onto Suerte, though 3 years would appear to be a long time before the virus to show itself.

One interesting observation is Suerte's temples, where the twitching has been going on, are now more concaved if that makes sense.

Suerte doesn't seem to be in pain, just scared and confused about what is going on. When the episodes are not going on he, for small bits of time, returns to old Suerte and becomes interested in what the other dogs are doing, runs down to the gate with them and is interested in the neighborhood dogs barking.

Ok, that's up to the minute. Thanks again for your expertise!

 

 


by hodie on 04 October 2008 - 19:10

It is probably too late to suggest that until you know what the problem is, the dog should be isolated from the others. All of the conditions you mention are a possibility, including an encephalitis or meningitis. For that reason alone, a broad-spectrum moderately high dose of antibiotics would be in order while the blood tests are taken etc. If there is nothing suggestive of infection one way or the other in the bloodwork, then pursue some brain issue such as a tumor or idiopathic epilepsy. But the fact that this started so suddenly and has continued with small periods of the dog being more normal is very worrisome.

In the meantime, a good idea is also to minimize the stimulation the dog receives from people and other animals. Keeping him quiet might help.

Keep us posted. 


enlosandes

by enlosandes on 04 October 2008 - 20:10

Hodie, thanks for the feedback. He is so out of it, that nothing is really stimulating him, he looks like he is lost. This is especially true now that we gave him the injection to combat the twitching.


by oso on 04 October 2008 - 20:10

I sympathise so much with you, earlier this year we lost our 6 year old to neurological problems, not quite the same as yours but in some ways similar - this really reminds me as we were researching all the same possibilities at the time. I wrote about this here in the forum but I am not sure if the posts later disappeared. Strong steroid injections (dispropan) helped for a while but in the end we had to put him to sleep. But there are many possibilities and I sincerely hope that in your case it is something that can be resolved, like a poison or tick related. We are also "enlosandes" (Ecuador). Wishing Suerte mucha suerte...please let us know.

by hodie on 04 October 2008 - 21:10

Hello Oso,

How is the young female doing?

Enlosandes, the medication probably sedated the dog a bit so that is probably a good thing until you can get to some definitive care. Try to have him eat small meals, more frequently, and try to get him to drink while waiting for Monday and blood work. That will help answer some of the questions.


by oso on 04 October 2008 - 21:10

Hello Hodie, actually I have been meaning to let you know that the young female is fine, she is back with her owners, she has put on weight and has not had any more problems. We still have no idea really what caused those symptoms or whether there was any connection with what happened to my male. None of my other dogs have developed neurological problems, though I am dealing with a different medical problem now that I am about to ask about in a new post... Enlosandes - the young female Hodie mentioned also developed neurologial symptoms not long after my dog died, though not quite the same as him. I forgot to mention that my vet also diagnosed my male with distemper though the dog was fully vaccinated, though we later questioned this. He had had a lung problem prior to the neuro symptoms. I checked and my previous posts have gone unfortunately, but if you would like any more details feel free to e-mail or PM me..





 


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