Why Vets Are Getting Away With Murder - Page 4

Disneyland, it seems. 

Maybe he IS a vet  ? 

Technicians rather than vets or not,  what both Blitzen and Hexe are saying makes perfect sense

to me.  I also agree with GSDStudent about the need, nay the responsibility we have as animal

owners to be as informed and sensible as possible;   I have been very lucky,  during 50 years of

taking cats and dogs to Vets, and while I have met a few ropy, inefficient and plain antisocial ones,

the  Vets I have regularly dealt with have all been terrific.  The fact that I usually knew what I was

talking about definitely helped,  I got treated like an informed adult in response, and  I'm pretty sure

I have never been ripped off with unnecessary procedures.

I always treat  "My vet said ..." stories with a pinch of salt, because often pet owners who have not

done due diigence,  or their 'homework',  can misinterpret some of what has been said to them by

their Vet -  nonetheless I have heard some total horror stories over the years, things I am very

glad I didn't have to deal with !

Pawlik doesn't sound like a vet, Hundmutter.

Give an example of a vet that made me scratch my head in wonderment...how in the heck did she get a license to practice? .... About fifteen years ago, I had my gsd and Rotty with me to go down to the horse barn to feed my horses. The twelve month old jack Russell was let out of the house without my knowledge, and he joined with the romping big dogs...the little guy got hit in the head by the leg of one of the big dogs and was sent rolling. When we got back to the house, I noticed the jack's eye was bulging and his head was swelling. He was walking fine and was not distressed, but that's a terrier for ya. I took him to a local vet, as my vet is an hour away. I explained t the vet what had happened to him...she looked at his eye, which was bulging noticeably and said it was an "optical" illusion... I'm not kidding, she really said that. Then she said ,and by the way this happened in January, she actually said, "He probably got it by a "creepy crawly" and has made his head swell." !! I looked at her like SHE was a bug on a pin, and took the the dog to my vet an hour away. Turned out the little guy had a FRACTURED skull !!! And that bimbo with a vet license tried to convince me a bug bit him. Anyway, the jack recovered without any problems, no thanks to the local dodo with a vet license.

"i never vaccinated any of my dog i new that long time ago , and they are all healthey ."

 

are you the guy asking about moving to oz to set up shop as a breeder, dude you will be banned from breeding and have to sell unregistered dogs through the sunday classifieds and at the local farmer markets.

 

you are irresponsible and a public health threat to dogs.

 

and you brag about it.

"dogs without borders" seriously, what low class, disgusting scum preying on people's emotions to sell voodoo potions to gullible people with too much cash.

misrepresnting that name to cash in, how low can humans get.

 

The question here is not to vaccinate or not vaccinate, it's how often. An unvaccinated dog presents no health risk to a vaccinated/protected dog, only to an unvaccinated/unprotected one. Some breeders I know no longer vaccinate routinely after generations of titering their litters have clearly demonstrated that their puppies receive maternal antibodies and lifetime protection without man made vaccinations.

IMO it's a personal decision whether or not one vaccinates, how frequently,  and for which diseases. I think we really need to do our homework to learn which diseases are actual threats in our areas and to our respect breed. Do mature dogs really need kennel cough, distemper, parvo?  Probably not. My dog had to have a kennel cough vac before the vet would surgically implant her. IMO that's extreme, but par for the course here in FL.

Show up 3 hours after the one year deadline for a 3 year rabies vac, and your dog is going to get the one year vac and it begins all over again. My current dog had 5 rabies vac by the time she was 3 1/2. When I got her, the "one year vac" was not yet expired, but I stupidly forgot to tell the receptionist I wanted her to have a 3 year vac, never assume, so she got the one year. When I asked why they did that and why they couldn't give me a 3 year certificate since the one year vac was identical to the 3 year, the vet told me that her dose came from a bottle labeled "one year". He did offer to allow me to bring her back in a month for another free rabies vac, this time he would draw it from the 3 year bottle. I declined the generous offer. Will all those rabies vacs cause her any health issues? The jury is still out, so far so good.

I will never give a dog another intranasal bordetella vac due to one causing a resistant bacterial sinusitis in my first GSD. That poor dog had 2 surgeries by the best soft tissue surgeon on the east coast and about every antibiotic known to man, but he still sneezed mucus and blood for 3 years until he died at only 7 from lymphosarcoma. He also had annual rabies shot given by the vet I mentioned above , no show Joe, who convinced me that rabies were rampant in the area. Not true. 

I don't get most vacs myself either. We have to do what we have to do, no right or wrong.

Great thread, thanks.

I have seen a friends imported Czech dog come down with parvovirus because apparently many do not vaccinate over there.

Like Sunsilver, I take the miffle of the road approach.

I'm blessed to have a competent, caring vet whose fees are reasonable.

''itisdieter'' you are absolutely right,i imported lots of dogs from Europe not only german shepherds but some other breeds, and i had the same problem.Beside you don't go just to any vet.Before you picked vet. usely you do research about him,and word of mouth from other pet owners and breeders will help a lot.Cutting corners like some forum members do by not vaccinating the dogs sooner or later will have serious consequences ,expecielly when you breed dogs and you go outside of your kennel.I would never buy a puppy nor breed my female to a stud if they have no vaccinations and health cert.

And those are exactly the points of this entire thread, Pawlik, and what most of us have said from the start. Not all vets are competent, so you'd better do  your homework before you pick one. Other breeders are the best sources. You twisted that all around to try to make Hexe and me sound like we are jealous and vindicative liars because that we aren't vets. Now you agree? Why now?

If  you're buying a puppy from a country where parvo is common, of course you don't buy a puppy that has not been immunized before it is shipped.  The shipping in the belly of a plane is very stressful for any dog let alone a puppy and stress will tend to make a pup more prone to diseases like parvo.  A puppy you have bred yourself or purchased from a local breeder is not exposed to that level of stress so may not develop parvo where another with a similar level of  maternal protection might. Importing puppies and transporting them acrossed the ocean in the belly of a plane is a much different ballgame than breeding your own or buying locally.

Not overloading dogs with vaccines is not cutting corners.