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bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 02 November 2014 - 00:11

Three properly timed distemper/parvo and three rabies vaccinations are all that a dog that lives 10-12 years will ever need.  Dr. Jean Dodds is blowing the rabies vaccination schedule used today out of the water but the vaccine maufacturers, vets, and legislatures will stick with the outdated rabies vaccination schedule because it makes money for all involved.  All the other vaccines are only necessary if you live in a high risk area and a vaccine is available that actually works for the disease in your area ( like the Lepto vaccines that are not effective ).  If you live in Florida or Louisiana then year round heartworm makes more sense than if you live in Montreal or Winnipeg.  Likewise if you live in Winnipeg you will have more opportunities to use the heated seats on your Volvo than if you live in Florida.  The "big lie" that vaccines are safe started with the polio vaccine and the government and the vaccine manufacturers have clung to and protected that lie at all costs.  


by joanro on 02 November 2014 - 00:11

Excellent post, bubba.

by Blitzen on 02 November 2014 - 00:11

assuming we are allowed to disagree with blitzen and post an individual opinions still

I didn't offer an opinion, vk. I didn't write the article; I posted a link to the article for review by board members.


by vk4gsd on 02 November 2014 - 01:11

the costs of an individual plan for every person or pet would be non-sustainable, hospitals, public health and vet sector have to be available for society to function, it is necessarily in the most part a factory approach. those that can afford it see a better system, it is about minimising harm for the majority inside a given economic system. vaccines don't invent themselves but nasty bugs do. most pharma research  is backing losing horses, it costs millions to get a medicine on the market, it is not high profit as some think. what is high profit is putting remedies on the market that do not  have the same legal requirements and standards as actual real medicine.

who is paying for stockpiles of vaccines, who is putting the millions required to create new ones, less and less people and orgs everyday. you will only notice when a new strain of polio or whatever comes back then you will be blaming the gov and some anonymous thing you expect and demand but do not fund called science.

such hypocrisy and dnagerous, selfish and irresponsible  thinking for your own short term gain.

if you don't want to buy flea treatment, don't buy it, simple.

the internet has made us dumber and y'all think you are uncovering some conspiracy, the facts are more mundane and brutal than you can imagine.

 

ETA, i recently went to the accountant to do my tax, at the end of it he offered me a whole bunch of financial services i did not ask for, he is required as a condition of his employment to offer these services. the fear angle was mentioned, what if you get sick and can't work, you might lose your house etc, etc. i did not cry conspiracy or profiteering based on everyone's fears and emotions, i just politley said thanks for the info i am not interested.

 


kitkat3478

by kitkat3478 on 02 November 2014 - 03:11

The sad part is, lots of dumb people out there who own dogs, and the truth is, most do not do the kind of research most of us do.

   Many a vet does encourage wasteful spending when it comes to our pets. The thing that really gets me is these vets that encourage spay/neuter  at 4 months old..

   Yeah, i know how many unwanted puppies are born every year. A responsible pet owner is not letting their dogs run the streets. AND,  if you are not responsible  enough to keep your dog safe for the first year of ownership,  you probably  shouldn't have a dog in the first place. 

   I am not a fan of vets!


by hexe on 02 November 2014 - 04:11

Not interested in entertaining any discussion on this subject.  The tired refrain of 'most vets are only in it for the money' and 'most vets are greedy and money-hungry'--as if a single one of us care nothing about being fairly compensated for our work, and are surviving solely on our charitable actions--is not only insulting to those in the field, it's also incorrect. There are far easier professions to enter, at far less expense, that are far and away more lucrative than veterinary medicine. 

All I'm going to say about it is that veterinarians are no different than anyone here--they have the same financial needs as everyone here has, plus they've more often than not got hefty student loans to pay off as well [which I realize some here also have]. And as with any profession, there will be those who went into the field for all the wrong reasons, and there are those who were born to it;  for the latter, as long as they're able to provide for their families, their support staff and associates, they plow any profit they're making right back into the practice so they can provide better care for their patients. 

 


by SitasMom on 02 November 2014 - 04:11

Many vaccines for humans do not last a lifetime, I wold imagine its the same for dogs and cats.
I'm not sure dogs need to be vaccinated every single year, but not vaccinating at all is not the answer.


by waleed on 02 November 2014 - 06:11

i never vaccinated any of my dog i new that long time ago , and they are all healthey .


by waleed on 02 November 2014 - 06:11

its legal for government and DR to kill people imagine dog


by Blitzen on 02 November 2014 - 12:11

Over 15 years I worked as  tech for 5 different vets in 3 different practices; all Penn grads.

The first a mixed father/son practice with a new graduate associate.  All 3 vets as different as night is from day. The father an old school vet who offered  his GSD GSL at stud with no hips xrays or health checks to any female that came along. His competience was questionable. He used the same needle and syringe to vaccinate multiple dogs and cats and dispensed drugs that were outdated by years. His son was much more competent, but hated to deal with pets owners so spend most of his day vetting horses for the dressage world. The associate was the best vet I ever knew or worked for. Did everything right and was ethical. When he left that practice to open his own I went to work for him. He was very popular with breeders of all breeds. He had his limits - no ear cropping, no surgical procedure he was not trained to do, no orthopedic surgery, no skunks, racoons or other wild animals.

Then that practice was sold to another Penn grad who did anything to make money. He jumped into surgical procedures he had no business doing, never referrred to specialists. He'd try anything himself to make money. We descented skinks. docked tails on 3 year old dogs, cropped ears on adult dogs because their owners wanted them to look like something they were not. The money kept rolling in and at 50 he retired a very wealthy man and is now living on an estate in Costa Rica.The 5th vet was another old schooler who was semi retired and vetted the horses at the local track. I wouldn't allow him to have contact with any of my dogs.

IMO vets are no different than any other doctor, some are great, others stink and the secret is to know the difference. I find that the best vet referrals come from other breeders. If you belong to a local kennel club or attend a local training class, you can get  your best referrals from those people. Never assume all vets are good or all are bad.






 


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