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YogieBear

by YogieBear on 25 May 2010 - 15:05

Fascaus - nice dogs - the first picture shows cream on the back underside - my girl has this as well - is it standard for this light cream to be there for Melanistic blanket b/t.?    I agree she isn't bi-color - but I didn't start wonder what color she was until a club member brought a doberman to our club that was the same color as my girl... 

My girl is from two sables - sold black grand sire on the sires side.  Here is her pedigree - www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/554393.html - I have tried to grasp that recessive gene stuff - but it just goes in one ear and out the other - never will understand it - so here is a stupid question - for those that can advise - if my girl is out of two sables - why did she come out a melanistic blanket with very red coloring.  The pictures dont really show how red she is. 

Please keep the pictures coming...

YogieBear

by fscavs on 25 May 2010 - 16:05

Apparently one sable parent carried sable and the recessive saddle/blanket gene, and the other parent carried sable and the recessive black.  Sable is dominate so both parents appeared sable.
Theoretically:
 1/4 of there litter would be saddle and carry recessive black. Expressing as a blanket pattern. 
3/4's of litter would have been sable (1/4 carring all sable genes, and 1/8 carring Sable and saddle genes, but looking like sables, 1/8 carring sable and black genes, but looking like sables). 

But anybody that's ever bred can tell you it's a roll of the dice as to what you get, but that's the odds.

As far as the tan extending under the tail, yes this is normal.  But amount varies a lot between individuals.  This makes some individuals very hard to distinguish which they should classified as.  Look for bi-colored ancestors, they got to have them to be bi-colored, and the toe stripping and tar heels.

He is actually a much darker golden/red.  The photo was taken at dusk so the camera lightened to compensate for the black and washed out his red.  If you look at the second picture, there's a spot above his ear that didn't wash out as much.  This is more his true color.  With that being said, the working lines will usually show the more preferred intense red than the American Show GSD's.  But there are exceptions.


by LynOD on 25 May 2010 - 17:05

 Yogi

I have a female that looks scarily just like yours!!! She was registered by the breeder as a bi color, but since she has so much tan I don't think the breeder registered her correctly.  But that was the breeders doing not mine.  She was darker as a pup with black going down the legs but it lightened up as she grew. I wish I could post pictures, but I am very techniquely challenged especially on this site for posting pictures.  I will try.

Lyn

nonacona60

by nonacona60 on 25 May 2010 - 17:05

Will this bitch only produce sables?????


                      Sable
             Sable
                       Sable
               
Sable
                      Sable
             Sable
                       Blk/Tan

I was told the only way she would produce any other color is if she was bred to a solid black, than she would produce sable, and solid blacks.



EDIT by nonacona60
Sorry... this was supposed to be a new thread.....
I'll try again....


gagsd4

by gagsd4 on 25 May 2010 - 21:05

I get asked all of the time about colors, so I wrote this up. Let me know if it makes sense and if it actually helps you figure out colors.
---Mary

by LynOD on 25 May 2010 - 21:05


GSDtravels

by GSDtravels on 25 May 2010 - 22:05

I'd vote melanistic B/T but I wouldn't bet the house on it.  She's got unique facial markings and close up, she almost looks sable.  Is there such a thing as a melanistic blanket sable?  Not saying that's what she is, but if not, then yes, melanistic B/T.  Pretty girl!

YogieBear

by YogieBear on 25 May 2010 - 22:05

LynOD - she does look my female - my female is redder where your girl is tan but very much like my female.  My female is registered as a black and tan as well - is there a classification for what our dogs are to be registered as?

Anybody - can you register your dog as a m blanket back - blk/red or blk/red?


Or is there such a registration>

More pictures please - are these dogs rare in color?  There isn't tons of pictures of people that have them....

For those genetic experts  - I would like to know about the gene that carriers this color - Like I said previously - my girl is from two sables - I have been told that one of the kennels in her breeding - strived for this dark mahogany coloration - Wildsteiger Land.  So, could somebody please advise me on this.  Not that I am interested in breeding - just find it interesting - if I bred I would be interested  in work ability - so we wont talk about this -just for conversation sake -  if I bred her to get her coloring - this deep red - what  or who you breed with to this this same color or even darker mahogany..? 


Yogie



by LynOD on 25 May 2010 - 22:05

Actually yogi my dog is registered bi color, but as you can see she did not turn out that way .  She had black down the legs that faded.  My girl is acutally out a a dark sable sire and and blk and tan dam.  Ceira is darker than her mom was although the dam was a dark blk / tan.

Lyn

by VomMarischal on 25 May 2010 - 22:05

A blanket back is just a variety (degree?) of Black and Tan. Same gene.





 


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