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Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 10 June 2010 - 23:06

"...despite what appeared to be a bagel attached to her heinie."

LMAO!  What a great description!

by The Good Life on 10 June 2010 - 23:06

Mystere, That's what I'm talking about.  Its not the norm....  
OGBS, I take the BS is for the BS you write. 

by rascalflats on 10 June 2010 - 23:06

But my people are telling me that other dogs did act up during the running of the class, a few dogs turned around and threw a bit at the dog in back of them. (naughty dogs, but remember it's only cheating if you get caught, or if they don't like you, remember high school, I bet you do:):) (maybe I should start another threat, "naughty dogs at the sieger show that got overlooked)
But since this is so uncharacteristic, or is it?
Has this never happened before. A dog misbehave in a group of other studs, bet the judge has never seen that before.
Or maybe TessJ10, you shoule be the judge, then it would all be perfect. and Phil can be the breed warden and cross the mals with the shepherd?
Count me in, if you are up for election. We need more prosecutors like you.
Can you put Blogo behind bars? or Drew peterson?

Phil Behun

by Phil Behun on 10 June 2010 - 23:06

Here's a question for you Flat Rascal, do you think that there should be a separate set of rules that apply to dogs bred here in the States by "The Friends of Johannes Grewe"?  Or, is the goal (or should the goal be) to improve the breed and therefore the breeding programs here in the United States?  How does aggressive behavior on the podium at a national working championship differ from the display in Lake Geneva?

I personally witnessed another incident at the 2002 USCA National Championship in Gadsden, AL where a German Shepherd was dismissed for aggression AFTER HIS OBEDIENCE ROUTINE by Judge Herr Peter Jacobs.  The incident occurred during the critique of a round robin obedience trio which included Ivan and Django.  I believe Ivan was in the middle during the oration when the dog on his right, calmly got up from his sit walked forward, made a left turn, walked past Ivan, faced the 3rd dog, walked right to his face and jumped him.  Ivan was absolutely composed and handled it perfectly.  He just told his dog "fuss" and peeled off to his right and left the scene.  Nothing happened to either dog involved but Herr Jacobs dismissed the instigator for aggression and disqualified him from further participation.  The whole thing could have probably been avoided if the handler in question had his dog on leash as the "rules" state is permissible during the critique.  

Point is, if it's good for the goose, it's good for the gander.  Why is this type of behavior not even allowed during the BH test but permissible at a National "Open to the Public" event?  Is it because the "Friends of Johannes Grewe" are held to a different set of "rules"?  It's time that the current USCA administration is held accountable for their self serving manipulation of the "Rules and Regulations".  "This bra doesn't fit, and I'm not going to wear it anymore".  

by TessJ10 on 10 June 2010 - 23:06

"But my people are telling me that other dogs did act up during the running of the class, a few dogs turned around and threw a bit at the dog in back of them."

Oh, dear, now you're calling Julie a liar.  Nice.   

And you're missing the point again - the aggression is to be penalized, NO MATTER WHO.  So to get back to the point, this makes the judge look even worse.  Multiple aggressive dogs and he does nothing?  Appalling.

And hey, Moses, why are not you and "your people" concerned about judges ignoring the rules?


Phil Behun

by Phil Behun on 10 June 2010 - 23:06

Julie, my offer still stands, I know you are monitoring the discussion here.  If you can prove to me that Eddie's hands have NO visible signs of canine penetration, I will withdraw my impending complaint.  BTW, I have received enough response to basically have people contribute $10 and provide the required $200 fee.  I don't believe all these people have a burning desire to see Mittelwest burned at the stake, I believe they are fed up with the way USCA treats and insults it's members and contributors and this is their way of speaking up.  It sure is mine.  I was raised with the belief that there is a right way and a wrong way to do things, and this was not right.

by TessJ10 on 10 June 2010 - 23:06

Excellent post, Phil.

"Point is, if it's good for the goose, it's good for the gander. Why is this type of behavior not even allowed during the BH test but permissible at a National "Open to the Public" event?"




MaggieMae

by MaggieMae on 10 June 2010 - 23:06

PASS THE POPCORN !

I like Winners -- not Whiners -- WINNERS !    Why can't some of you "Yahoos" get over your envy or "pull that hair out of your ass?   Is it because deep down you know that you will never reach that Level of Competition / very slim chance that you will ever have a high rated V dog / and will NEVER have a VA rated dog ?

Just be happy for those that participated, those that rated well, and those that won.   You guys/gals are all "bent out of shape" because of the "split" in the Club; then you start looking for a target to go after.   Do you realize how stupid and petty you sound in your posts.   Color Shampoo / Tails / now Dog Aggression and bad Judges.   
Your attitude and behavior is EXACTLY why you will never go to the top with your dog.   

Phil Behun

by Phil Behun on 10 June 2010 - 23:06

And, Fats,,,,,,,,I mean Flats, you and "your people" are invited to the meeting as well.  This way, I will have witnesses from the "Friends of Johannes Grewe" there to verify my findings.

MaggieMae

by MaggieMae on 10 June 2010 - 23:06

Good grief Phil -- "burn Mittelwest at the stake"  --  dang, get "over yourself."   You are making a fool of yourself.  





 


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