Wise Words - Page 6

Hopefully God did a brain update for New Years and all of the posters now have a "functioning brain".

Please keep in mind that:

No set of laws can eliminate evil from the world

God is my judge 
              thats really all i need to know. As for others i can't change that.

Or stupidity, Ninja.

The first part of the t-shirt, is a clever adaptaton using the query of the innocent child who questions the obvious: the disparity between a loving God and the atrocities we all witness in our daily life. It is an age old, ongoing, theological discussion.

The second part of the t-shirt refers to the the separation of church and state, how something that started out with the idea to have the freedom to worship as one chooses, has swung to mean "freedom to worship or not", and a rigid adherence in the belief that the two shall never meet.

Wow, spin much beetree?

I just love how you go separation of church and state as being the answer to the child's question.  You're being a bit (acutally a lot) disingenuous there, don't you think?  You didn't really answer the question at all, did you beetree?   Now I see why you really don't want to get into a morality debate, you don't have much,

Please re-read your interpretation of my first part. You messed that one  up by doing that inaccurate re-phrasing thing you do, in an attempt to appear scholarly.  When you can understand that there are two different issues being used to support one another.... (and really not in the most logical way, but that's not my problem) maybe there will be hope for you. I doubt it, to tell the truth because you seem to have made it your problem to debunk the t-shirt, come hell or high water.

I'm just here for the morality. When we actually get to that, I will be interested.

Your "interpretation"?  What's to interpret beetree?

Since the vast amount of verbiage is a bit difficult for you, why don't we break this down, so you can take it s-l-o-w-l-y.

Dear God, This is an opening salutation.  When writing a letter, you address a particular person or group.  In this particular case, it is God.  Are we straight on which one, or do you need to define it more specifically?  For this instance, we're going to assume it's the God of the Christian Bible.  If that's not okay and you need to interpret it as a different God, just name it.

Why do you you means God, right? allow so much violence in our schools? not churches, not bars, not homes, but schools

Signed, a concerned student  Now, since this student is addressing God directly, we can safely assume that this student has faith in the God he's addressing. 

Now, make sure you're paying attention here beetree, because you liked this answer, remember?

Dear Concerned Student, this is another salutation, in this case, in response.  I'm this is a contraction for "I am" and in this case, a first person response in answer to the question asked in the first part not allowed  barred, banned, not permitted, expelled, not present, anywhere and everywhere but there in schools.

(signed) God

Now, since you liked that God isn't preventing the violence in schools because he's not allowed in schools, you like the fact that God would abandon his own followers --> not because they themselves didn't have faith, but because the place they were in couldn't laud him audibly, completely and harmoniously.  Since the school won't open the day with laudable worship, these children are not worthy of his protection.  I'd say that's taking pouting to a whole new level!

I'd say that either this God is an evil monster who likes to see children die for lack of proper adoration, or the child deserved horrible punishment for something he/she had no control over.  Take your pick.

You seem to have quite an issue getting around to that morality, but then, you can't figure out a way to set it up only to allow your sticking points to be followed to a tee.  You don't quite know how to come up with those rules yet, but l'm sure you'll get around to it after coffee :)

And I'll even beat you to your answer for me.  It will be along the lines of me taking things to the extreme and reading too much into it.  You will prefer the emotional dichotomy and say it's just a much simpler concept.  Now see beetree, that's where that morality thing comes into play in a big way.  There are many unspoken, but intended meanings in cute sayings, but you can't have it both ways.  You either mean what you say, or you don't say it.  You can't pick and choose the truth in the message, it's kind of like short division and long division, you still come out with pretty much the same answer, with long division giving the most accurate quotient.  Calling short division more accurate is cheating, even if it looks prettier on paper.

Okay, let's do this in baby steps... You want to know what I think is the implication to the T-shirt message.  Sigh.  Try to understand this one message that I will have written for the third time, now:

"...a rigid adherence in the belief that the two shall never meet."
 

There you go, that is it in a nutshell for you, the implication of the meaning of the t-shirt according to me.  Now, once you can get past that, we might actually try to figure out what part of morality is causing you concern as it relates to a belief in God? I think you need to leave out what you think I like and don't like about God and schools, since you always get it wrong. This isn't really about me, see!  It is about a message on a T shirt being deemed.... Wise or Not! 

Now that means, the #1 part query by the concerned student which, I repeat:

'The first part of the t-shirt, is a clever adaptaton using the query of the innocent child who questions the obvious: the disparity between a loving God and the atrocities we all witness in our daily life. It is an age old, ongoing, theological discussion.

What you should be noticing is the fact that I mention it is "an age old, ongoing, theological discussion."  And that tells you immediately that there is no satisfactory answer to this question for everyone, because it relies on faith, something the godless don't have. So, let's just realize that, and leave it be for what it is. The observation of the innocent during the discovery of the contrast between GOOD and EVIL.

Now, the second part deals with not allowing prayer in our schools because of the separation of church and state. Think of it as a lament from the faithful believers in God, those that think the teachings expressed in a public show of prayer in our public education should have a place in our moral fiber. It could be an optional part that makes up US society, was my point. 

The interesting things that I think you could be picking up on, you just leave by the wayside, and go to nit picking. Please realize, the nit picking is a waste of time.

 

"Please realize, the nit picking is a waste of time."

I will remember this.


No God is going to condone the killing of 6 year old children because prayer is not allowed in schools, only sad humans would say or think such a horrible thing and as far as we know God may have plans for the people who made up this shirt and have posted this sick message all across the internetS.