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by Ruger1 on 26 November 2013 - 10:11
Shtal..You should have just raised a flag and sounded a trumpet call !!...Shhh, don't say the name Vk4...;)

by Two Moons on 26 November 2013 - 10:11
I find this cut and paste scripture as offensive as gouda's twisted prayer here on the forum.
gouda is sick and needs help but shtal, your just jacking everyone off, playing your game for your own amusement.
So....bullshit to you shit head.
gouda is sick and needs help but shtal, your just jacking everyone off, playing your game for your own amusement.
So....bullshit to you shit head.

by Shtal on 26 November 2013 - 12:11
Thank you moons for letting me know exactly what is offensive to you, I will keep that in my mind just in case if you piss me off too much I will give you more scriptures.

by Two Moons on 26 November 2013 - 12:11
Don't flatter yourself, you don't piss me off, it's the cut and paste I find offensive.
Play on ...
Play on ...

by rtdmmcintyre on 26 November 2013 - 13:11
shtal do you understand that a kingdom is simply a government. God's kingdom therefore would be God's government. To say a person gets life but couldn't be under God's government is illogical. Whose government would they then be under? If God grants a person life then it would only be logical that they would then be subjects to that government.

by Shtal on 26 November 2013 - 17:11
I want to extrapolate this subject in regards what you said a "kingdom is simply a government". Which I agree!!!...I know that all Christians believe in eternal life, I know that many are trying to understand or grasp and access into the kingdom of heaven, and so what is the kingdom of heaven??? I know that there are many people who are completely wrong Imagineering heaven. Their performance is very close to the primitive notion of many believers: they think that the kingdom of heaven is once you are saved you are always saved, that said, many believers have joyful life in luxury paradise gardens on earth, which will delight them with their singing, dancing and music and etc…where they will enjoy the luxurious viands. But the Apostle Paul said, for the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost. (Romans 14:17). As you can see, little fallacy of understanding of the believers even among Christians - not food and drink, not enjoying luxurious viands, but quite apposite; its righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. And when Jesus was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said the kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! Or, lo there! For, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. (Luke 17:20-21) Have you ever heard, read, delved into these amazing words? Do you know that the kingdom of heaven is within you? And we know about eternal life, which is the same as the kingdom of heaven, the Lord Jesus Christ in His high priestly prayer thus says: And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. (John 17:3) Again, not those fancy things of some believers, again something very deep, again the words of great importance. Eternal life, knows the only true God and Jesus Christ whom He has sent. And if we read (Galatians 5:22-25) About the Kingdom of God…But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. This kind of kingdom should dwell inside of every Christian “that said” this condition will unite a person with God’s kingdom of heaven (as one) with second coming of Christ. One last thing, if we read in (Galatians 5:19-21) Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Shtal.
Shtal.

by rtdmmcintyre on 26 November 2013 - 19:11
that phrase can also be translated the kingdom of God is in your midst. Jesus as the future king of that kingdom was standing with them, thus in their midst. He was not saying the kingdom of God was within the hearts of the Pharasies whom he condemned. And according to your understanding that is what he would have been saying, "The kingdom of God is within you".

by rtdmmcintyre on 26 November 2013 - 19:11
Don't need long paragraphs that lose a person. Knowledge is proven by breaking seemingly complicated things down to simple wording where it is easily understood by all.

by GSDtravels on 26 November 2013 - 19:11
Shtal has no knowledge, he only has talking points from his favorite stars; Kent and Eric Hovind, Sye Ten Bruggencate and Ray comfort. When one doesn't have knowledge, one must use the many words of others instead.
by vk4gsd on 26 November 2013 - 20:11
this the kingdom of god is within you - this the kingdom of god is within your mind ??
i thought that was more of an new age claim than what i understand as a conventional christian claim, all just interpretation i guess.
anyhoo if the the kingdom of god is within you - why do you have to die to go to heaven
seems like Christians are very confused doctinally speaking, 41 000 different mainstream christian religions officially identified and still counting and only god knows how many unofficial sects there are - branch davidians?
some folks just want to believe in belief
what a mess
i thought that was more of an new age claim than what i understand as a conventional christian claim, all just interpretation i guess.
anyhoo if the the kingdom of god is within you - why do you have to die to go to heaven
seems like Christians are very confused doctinally speaking, 41 000 different mainstream christian religions officially identified and still counting and only god knows how many unofficial sects there are - branch davidians?
some folks just want to believe in belief
what a mess
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