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by Hundmutter on 28 October 2012 - 08:10
Sorry to come back in so late, put it down to the time difference, I've been
asleep. Bee - no of course one shouldn't believe everything (anything ?)
when its on the 'net. It was actually a rhetorical question to bring up the
'proof' of the US Govt / CIA involvement in all sorts of dire doing, just to
illustrate there IS another POV. GSDAdmin has the right of it, IMO. Lots
of us outside the States ask WTF is going on ? and support Obama for
a 2nd term, he isn't perfect, no politician ever is, but he has had an uphill
struggle to make any changes in an established & biased system.
Slamdunc has kept the ball rolling, but Ninja had been so dismissive of
Keith's reply I wanted to chip in to agree that there may be racist bias
operating in the way such events as the Benghazi killings are reported and
dealt with.
asleep. Bee - no of course one shouldn't believe everything (anything ?)
when its on the 'net. It was actually a rhetorical question to bring up the
'proof' of the US Govt / CIA involvement in all sorts of dire doing, just to
illustrate there IS another POV. GSDAdmin has the right of it, IMO. Lots
of us outside the States ask WTF is going on ? and support Obama for
a 2nd term, he isn't perfect, no politician ever is, but he has had an uphill
struggle to make any changes in an established & biased system.
Slamdunc has kept the ball rolling, but Ninja had been so dismissive of
Keith's reply I wanted to chip in to agree that there may be racist bias
operating in the way such events as the Benghazi killings are reported and
dealt with.
by beetree on 28 October 2012 - 12:10
Hundmutter,
Oh, sorry to hear that actually. I do like you, just so you know.
I don't believe any of this craziness. Because you see, if you go beyond the preposterous arguments you should really focus on the motive of those who want to tear America down, all the while insisting they are doing the opposite. Often these are the same people will tell you we never put a man on the moon, too. Ask them what their soluton is.
It is somewhat disturbing that the International community will find this little hole in the internet and some will probably think all American's are this looney. IMHO.
Keith could debate in a respectful manner, but he chooses not to for some reason. I think he does exactly what you say NInja does. Funny how that works.
Oh, sorry to hear that actually. I do like you, just so you know.
I don't believe any of this craziness. Because you see, if you go beyond the preposterous arguments you should really focus on the motive of those who want to tear America down, all the while insisting they are doing the opposite. Often these are the same people will tell you we never put a man on the moon, too. Ask them what their soluton is.
It is somewhat disturbing that the International community will find this little hole in the internet and some will probably think all American's are this looney. IMHO.
Keith could debate in a respectful manner, but he chooses not to for some reason. I think he does exactly what you say NInja does. Funny how that works.

by Hundmutter on 28 October 2012 - 12:10
oh I don't think Keith - or I - are perfect, either, Bee. Thanks for the vote of
confidence otherwise !? Guess we can agree to disagree on politics without
actively DISlikng each other ? Hope so. And no, I for one do not subscribe
to some of the more lunatic theories (I think the moon landing happened, and
I've been arguing the toss with Preston about his new fascist youth thoughts);
but there is sometimes an air of assumption that if you are not a LOONY leftie
you can't be a leftie at all.
confidence otherwise !? Guess we can agree to disagree on politics without
actively DISlikng each other ? Hope so. And no, I for one do not subscribe
to some of the more lunatic theories (I think the moon landing happened, and
I've been arguing the toss with Preston about his new fascist youth thoughts);
but there is sometimes an air of assumption that if you are not a LOONY leftie
you can't be a leftie at all.
by beetree on 28 October 2012 - 13:10
We are cool, Hundmutter. 


by Ninja181 on 28 October 2012 - 13:10
"Just like if the world voted in this election Obama would win by a landslide, funny how smart the world is and how inept half our population is. Just sayin'"
Of course they would vote for Obama. Because the majority of the world is envious and hates our guts.
They love Obama because IMO he is anti-american and totaly inept. He is asleep at the wheel and the rest of the world can get away with anything they want.
This country is going to crash after the election, everything is being manipulated to remain off the radar until the lame duck continues the next four years of his destructive mission unabated.
Of course they would vote for Obama. Because the majority of the world is envious and hates our guts.
They love Obama because IMO he is anti-american and totaly inept. He is asleep at the wheel and the rest of the world can get away with anything they want.
This country is going to crash after the election, everything is being manipulated to remain off the radar until the lame duck continues the next four years of his destructive mission unabated.

by Micaho on 28 October 2012 - 15:10
"there may be racist bias operating in the way such events as the Benghazi killings are reported and dealt with."
I agree there is a bias (in the under-reporting) but it certainly isn't racist. I would have had much more respect for Mr Obama if he had suspended his campaign for even one day in order to determine what happened in Cairo and Benghazi which resulted in the deaths of an American Ambassador and 3 other Americans at our Consulate. He ordered an investiagtion? So what are the results? Again, Obama speaks and nothing happens.
If he doesn't know what happened he isn't much of a President. If he doesn't care what happened, he isn't much of a human being. If he knows and isn't telling us, why? And if he knows and is lying, that's criminal.
Would "the world" give him another 4 years if their jobs were being made redundant from over taxing and over regulating? Of course they would prefer Obama who isn't threatening to review their foreign aid. When the world pays back their reparations and loans to help reduce our national debt, I will care what the world thinks. Meanwhile I care what our military thinks, and their votes may not even be counted.
"you should really focus on the motive of those who want to tear America down, all the while insisting they are doing the opposite.".
The world and Mr Obama want a level playing field and his policies or lack thereof are taking us there. I only agree with him on one thing. Everyone should have a fair shot. He's had his, Now it's time to move forward.
I agree there is a bias (in the under-reporting) but it certainly isn't racist. I would have had much more respect for Mr Obama if he had suspended his campaign for even one day in order to determine what happened in Cairo and Benghazi which resulted in the deaths of an American Ambassador and 3 other Americans at our Consulate. He ordered an investiagtion? So what are the results? Again, Obama speaks and nothing happens.
If he doesn't know what happened he isn't much of a President. If he doesn't care what happened, he isn't much of a human being. If he knows and isn't telling us, why? And if he knows and is lying, that's criminal.
Would "the world" give him another 4 years if their jobs were being made redundant from over taxing and over regulating? Of course they would prefer Obama who isn't threatening to review their foreign aid. When the world pays back their reparations and loans to help reduce our national debt, I will care what the world thinks. Meanwhile I care what our military thinks, and their votes may not even be counted.
"you should really focus on the motive of those who want to tear America down, all the while insisting they are doing the opposite.".
The world and Mr Obama want a level playing field and his policies or lack thereof are taking us there. I only agree with him on one thing. Everyone should have a fair shot. He's had his, Now it's time to move forward.

by BabyEagle4U on 28 October 2012 - 17:10
* "Of course they would vote for Obama. Because the majority of the world is envious and hates our guts" *
More like the majority of the world knows with an Obama re-election it's only 4 more years max, Romney it's a possible 8. Although I don't believe the rest of the world wants either Romney or Obama.
Ron Paul 2012 !!!
More like the majority of the world knows with an Obama re-election it's only 4 more years max, Romney it's a possible 8. Although I don't believe the rest of the world wants either Romney or Obama.
Ron Paul 2012 !!!


by GSD Admin on 28 October 2012 - 19:10
On a high note for Romney backers, Pakistan supports Romney, lmao.


by beetree on 28 October 2012 - 23:10
There certainly are at least two scenario's I can conjure that would support Pakistan's unpopular view of Obama. It would be interesting if you could expand on your reason's for the hilarity you mention.

by Slamdunc on 29 October 2012 - 00:10
Hmmm, according to this chart France is the biggest supporter. What a great and appreciative ally they are. If it wasn't for us and the British the Nazi's would be having tea in Paris right now. C'est le pied
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