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by Two Moons on 20 November 2013 - 23:11
Nice timing.....
Don't ya just love it when a page flips over..
Don't ya just love it when a page flips over..
by Shtal on 20 November 2013 - 23:11
Moons wrote: There is no ownership of a thread on any forum unless you own the site yourself, so much for gouda.
I care for the same reason you care......LOL
I'm correct also Shtal.
Fair enough Moons!
Shtal.
I care for the same reason you care......LOL
I'm correct also Shtal.
Fair enough Moons!
Shtal.
by Two Moons on 21 November 2013 - 00:11
I knew what you meant before the edit......
by Carlin on 21 November 2013 - 00:11
shtal - all I did was acknowledge and agree with an observation she made, which happens to be my experience also. It's fairly widespread across denomination. It's also difficult to assess the damage from one person to the next. I remember attending one church as a young man, a congregation of around 2000 or so, and had become so utterly sick and disgusted with the lies and white washing coming off of the altar (I knew what was really happening within leadership because I was in that clique), that on one Sunday morning I stood up in the middle of service, walked to the back, kicked the doors open, and threw my Bible across the foyer. Now, I'm sure I would behave differently now, but how many end up hurt and confused by some of the crap that goes on?
by Two Moons on 21 November 2013 - 00:11
Now I'm fucking bored,
Night.
Night.
by Shtal on 21 November 2013 - 00:11
Agree Carlin, seeing myself something similar.
by vonissk on 21 November 2013 - 01:11
Oh wow Carlin, I would have liked to see that and I do understand. I want to share something with you that does have to do with culture and growing up. Forget the pilgrims and all that--forget 500 yrs ago cause I know folks are going to say well that's all she talks about. But most of the Natives here are Christians--we have our own churches and all that--my mama was a Christian and read her Bible every day and lived it. But on the flip side of the coin she still believed in the traditional ways and our Creator. Well I never could understand that because somewhere in the Bible I believe it says you can't serve 2 masters--in other words you can't fence sit, you gotta make a choice. Do you see where this is going? When we were in church she was everything those folks wanted her to be. But when we were with family, it was a whole different thing--different traditions and language. In my many experiences in ndn country, as it is called, I decided I had to make that choice. So it was a lot of the little things as I said in the other post but this was the big one. I think for a long time I hung with religion because just in case it was all true then I wanted to make sure I was on the right team. You know what? It doesn't work like that. When I go to church I come out feeling like I've been threatened, I feel guilty cause it seems like I can never be good enough. when I go in a sweat-usually lasting 2-4 hours and come out, I am relaxed, I am high on life and I feel I actually belong someplace and I am a part of this earth. I feel pure and good about myself. So if that is pagan worship well then I am doomed..........but at least I'll go happy..........So now you know all my secrets and why I said I'd never be in that seat.
by Carlin on 21 November 2013 - 14:11
by Two Moons on 21 November 2013 - 14:11
That was a strange movie, but I did enjoy it.
Not the ending I would have hoped for.
Not the ending I would have hoped for.
by gouda on 21 November 2013 - 15:11
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