Forced Vaccinations for humans? - Page 2

I didn't say you didn't vaccinate your kids. I said I suppose you don't like all vaccines. I didn't assume anything but you didn't like vaccines.

So, if a vaccine became available for Ebola, you wouldn't get it? Even if Ebola all of sudden became a true airborne virus.

While these vaccines do cause some problems the common good is served by vaccinating.

When push comes to shove and you or your loved ones need to get vaccinated because of some deadly disease, I am pretty sure I know exactly what you would do.

BTW, if someone disagrees with you whether an admin or a member, you should just accept it and move on. Is it really bad to not expect others to agree with what we say? Every time I post anywhere on the internet I expect people to not agree with what I say. It is the nature of the internet.

Reported by Merck to FDA prior to approval "Merck presented data prior to approval that indicated clinically significant increase of cervical cancer after vaccination with Gardasil.  This data was presented to the FDA prior to approval for general use."   According to Merck's own research, if you have been exposed to HPV strains 16 or 18 prior to receipt of Gardasil vaccine, you could increase your risk of precancerous lesions, or worse, by 44.6 percent. Two years ago, Dr. Diane Harper, one of the lead researchers for Gardasil blew the whistle on the vaccine, saying that girls and their parents need to receive more complete information before accepting the inoculation. Dr. Harper, who participated in the Phase 2 and 3 trials to get Gardasil approved and authored several papers on it, raised serious questions about the vaccine's risks-benefit profile.  And, according to Dr. Harper, the available data suggests the vaccine's protective effects do not last beyond five years.  Australia banned flu vaccines for children under 5 years old due to the large number of dangerous reactions to the vaccine.  You have Guillain-Barre syndrome (GBS), an autoimmune disease which has been associated with influenza vaccine since 1976.  When it comes to profit, I do not trust Big Pharma (drug companies).  I know how research can be skewed with the confident interval reduced from 95% (scientific gold standard) to 85% or lower in order to get the results you want, you can change what is considered an outlier, you can change many different things, you have to read the actual data and know what you are looking at to see it.

Measles has killed 140,000 world wide every year according to WHO.  Measles, smallpox, polio, etc were wiped out in the U.S. because of immunizations.  They are making a comeback and can be deadly or at the least cause life long complications.  Today's foods in the United States are of a much poorer quality.  Children do not receive the nutrition they used to with all the processed food stuffs, GMO foods, high sugar and chemical content.  I do believe children are at a much greater risk of getting diseases with the poor nutrition, toxic chemicals in the ground water and air.  Call it what you will.  I think immunizations are necessary but should be researched via RELIABLE, CREDIBLE, VALID, PEER REVIEWED sources.

"And answer me this, how many children have died from the measles vaccine in the last ten years. "

why don't you tell us?

please do not compare places that vaccinate to the point of wiping out a disease and have some negative reactions. that is false stats, if thoise places did not vaccinate the death rate would be massive.

whenever diseases disspaear due to vaccination that is when the anti-vax crowd are most vocal, when there are piles of dead bodies they all vaccinate silently. we could elimante things like polio and nearly did until the religous crwod start killing health workers and the diseases have come back with a vengence. no amount of evidence seems to phase dangerous ignorant minds.

geez look at that, places that don't vaccinate have more polio, geez look at that places that are the most religious, vaccinate less and have more people die of prevenrable disease;

The answer to the question that RS won't answer is: 450 on average, ANNUALLY.  That would be 4.500 in the same time span as the 100 from the vaccine.  Some research!

GSD, everyone disagrees with me, and I do move on so what the hay are you talking about? LOL  It's not like I'm not used to being disagreed with.  Everyone else that saw things as I do have been banned.  When I post something that doesn't even have an opinion in it,as I hadn't  even finished it yet, and was still adding to it, yet a mod disagrees with it, it looks silly to be honest.

There is really a blatant double standard going on here.  Only one side is allowed to name call (which I didn't even do).  Vk for instance.  Even since you said rules apply everywhere he has said some horrific things yet was never once disciplined.

Travels, I"m not going to go round and round with you.  There has  always been plagues, and diseases.  Many will argue that vaccinations had nothing to do with it, the cycle  was over before they started.

Thanks for the well thought out post Mindhunt.

I should have stipulated the U.S. in my comment. 

http://healthimpactnews.com/2015/zero-u-s-measles-deaths-in-10-years-but-over-100-measles-vaccine-deaths-reported/

Vk, there you go bringing religion into it again.  This is about gov't control over our children to me.  Nothing else.

Go round and round?  No, there's no reason to for that.  I'm glad that you at least understand there have been 0 deaths from measles DUE TO VACCINES!

" Many will argue that vaccinations had nothing to do with it, the cycle  was over before they started."

this is a very ignorant statement, not name calling either.

and in this case religion clearly has a lot to do with it. it is the most significant factor people do not vaccinate. here look at this;

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/mar/25/pakistan-polo-vaccinators-murder-militants-salma-farooqi

and many since.

and this, why should these people be allowed to risk other's lives;

Most U.S. states, with the exception of West Virginia and Mississippi, allow individuals to apply for religious exemptions to mandatory vaccines based on their religious beliefs and objections.^[1] Religious vaccine exemptions have risen in recent years.^[11] Although adults and children with these exemptions comprise a small part of the overall population, they are often the center of controversy and media attention. Infections can spread quickly through small unvaccinated social and/or geographic church communities.^[7] For example, in Philadelphia in 1990, a major measles outbreak occurred among unvaccinated school children who were members of two fundamentalist churches that relied on prayer for healing, and opposed vaccines.^[8] In 1994, a measles outbreak occurred in a Christian Science community that objected to vaccination. The outbreak originated with a teenager who lived in Illinois, and attended a Christian Science boarding school in Missouri. Her illness contributed to significant outbreaks across both states.^[9] More recently, in 2005, a measles outbreak occurred among members of a religious community that opposed vaccination in Indiana, when an unvaccinated teenager returned ill from a trip overseas and infected others at a church gathering.^[10]

Red,

I never have anyone disagree with me, lol. It happens, I really don't worry about it and if I was a member I wouldn't call out an admin who hadn't made a comment. You still have people here who agree with you, probably more than you realize.

You may call it governmnet control but I see it as government common sense. The benifits, IMO, far outweigh the risks.

This isn't about measles.  I had the measles and lived through it.  Many had the measles.  I also had the chicken pox, as did my children.  Why vaccnate against them?  I agree with Mindhunt on our low immune systems.  Frankly if we ate better our bodies could fight off all these diseases.  I honestly believe  vaccinations (and studies have proven) compromise our immune systems.

My daughter didn't vaccinate her last baby who's had 3 heart operations and so much other stuff she didn't want to risk him with vaccination side effects.  He has never once been sick in the first 2 years of his life.  Not even a cold folks!  His older brother has had lots of colds and ear infections.

Here's an aricle from the Italian courts ruling vaccinations do cause autism.   Maybe your 'news' sources are the ones full of crap, not those like Alex. huh??

http://www.ageofautism.com/2015/01/recent-italian-court-decisions-on-vaccines-and-autism.html

Red,

I went to your link and my software said it was an unreliable source and stopped me from going to the page. So, yes this site you linked is full of crap.