Romney's latest goof up - Page 10

No one is against the Keystone pipeline; the concerns are about routing it through the Ogallala aquifer, on which more than 20% of the country's farmland is dependent.  The possibility of polluting it so that an international oil company can more easily ship their product out of North America should concern everyone.  The simple solution is to change the route of the pipeline so it doesn't threaten a massive portion of the country's water supply.

That's the difference between conservatives and progressives...progressives think beyond the now and what is most politically expedient today.

That is correct Keith, that is what the major concern should be. Accidents do and will happen, A few years ago a leak developed in Belleview,Wa. gas seeped into a creek running thru a business area of town and ignited, that was never suppose to happen. A good friend of mine was a engineer for Williams Pipeline. He was sent to Belleview to determine the cause of the failure. Being awake for several days, he then got on a jet and headed to Texas where there was another ruptured line and finally got home a week later, when he became ill and his organs had shut down, causing death from exhaustion.


Bottom line accidents are going to happen. I believe you have to consider the long term benefit on any project. That's why hazzard analysis should be a prime consideration, and not just profit projections.


Hank 

Who is going to feed and house the coal miners? The mine work is ALL they have and they live very simple lives. They would not choose mine work if they had alternatives.

Prevention and what ifs are one hand families starveing and homeless in the other. I go with supporting coal staying open while working on an alternative. I am for clean enviroment. I do not agree with jepordizing humans for a faster lets just not coal mine agenda without support in place for them. The people that depend on coal in the country life to keep warm as most areas people burn coal are in the sticks and do not have natural gas.

Natural gas is cheap and plentiful, it burns cleaner BUT I'm still waiting to be able to get a NG powered SUV and drive it cross country.....been waiting since the oil embargo of '79. I keep holding on to my old SUV's as long as I can just incase it actually happens. Yet still nothing.




Ethanol...... 26 pounds (1 bushel (54 lbs) converts to 2.7 gallons) of corn is required to make 1 gallon of ethanol. 40 percent of the corn crop went to producing ethanol in 2011. Farmers can produce 150 bushels per acre with high tech methods (fertilizers, herbisides pestisides, well water). 900,000 barrels (42 gallons per barrel) of ethanol is produced per day. 

E85 = 25% less MPG, costs approx 17% less (not sure about this one), but not for long.....USDA is predicting further rises in prices. It now thinks farm prices for corn will average $7.50-$8.90 per bushel, a sharp rise on the $5.40-$6.40 per bushel it predicted just a month ago.

Foreign countries that depend on our corn to feed the masses will not be able to purchase as much and more people will starve.


USDA is now estimating the total 2012 corn production at 10.7 billion bushels, which is slightly below the 10.8 billion bushel estimate in August. Total U.S. corn production was 12.3 billion bushels in 2011, 12.5 billion bushels in 2010, and 13.1 billion bushels in 2009. If the 2012 projections hold up, this would be the lowest total U.S. corn production since 2006.

This includes the most acres planted in corn in the past 75 years.....which equates to less of everything else being planted.. (which we feed to livestock).

Federal Government has a quota - 40% of corn crop for bio-feuls.

"Who is going to feed and house the coal miners? The mine work is ALL they have and they live very simple lives. They would not choose mine work if they had alternatives."

I don't know; you?  I'm guessing not; huh?  As I said before, you conservatives are stuck in the past.  Whatever happened to all of the people who built steam powered engines for cars?  Should we not have made the transition to internal combustion engines to save their jobs?  You're talking out of both sides of your mouth...you simultaneously decry people who you claim expect the government to provide for them and then you blame the government when people are unwilling to change with technology.  Which is it already?

Yes, they have alternatives...they can quit bitching and get off their asses and go to school and learn how to do something that will earn them a lucrative income.  The only constant in this world is change...you either change with it or you get left behind.

Who will feed them and then you insinuate I would not? I would feed as many as I could even though I am not the cause of their hunger. I already said that I volunteered feeding people in need and said I have done time helping people in soup kitchens and asked if you had..... you never answered and yet you scoff at my willingness to see them fed personally? You want to act like you above people like me and yet you do not offer your hand to care for those in need and scoff at the ones who care and do and you think your saying Mit is bad for his 47 percent comment but at least he did own it after he said it. I never said I was a conservative. I have never been either party and I wish Johnson had a snow ball chance in hell. There go assumptions again. I will say it again.... I just cant stand the thought of another four years of Obama after the four we just had. I do not love Romney either. Do not insult me by your measure of what I might and might not do to help people. I have taught computer skills to battered women in the pheonix foundation, fed the hungry and did SAR volunteerwork. I care about people. At christmas my husband and I take hams we buy to less fortunate. I hurt for people when they are facing hard times even if I do not know them so do not ever make light of what I would or would not do for them when it seems obvious you do not give back. I hope I am wrong about you, but do not presume to ever know me.

And Keith I don't know what city you are in but Dallas has not only busses on CNG--Dallas Area Rapid Transit--and the light rail which is electric and also I believe the majority of their cop cars are CNG. Also whatever happened to cars that did the propane thing? I know I had a new Ford pickup in the 70's that ran on propane and I loved it. What about the Hybrids of today? There are many options besides gas. In fact and I know I will get flamed for this--that one video I watched where Obama was talking about 8 mpg SUV's and the one guy said he had 10 kids and drove one--well maybe instead of a tuneup, he needed condoms or his wife needed a ride to Planned Parenthood. Before everybody gets their panties in a wad remember Octomom having all those babies at one time and then was on welfare. People threw a fit about that. Well maybe someone wants 10 kids....fine go adopt some or foster some there are plenty that need it .....................Of course now if you are middle class--1/4 million a year or better, I guess you can afford to do it. And you can drive an 8 mph SUV but I think it's ridiculous...................

Surburbans get 17 mpg.
Old Explorers get 18 mpg.

I don't know where he got his figures from.....LOL

http://washingtonexaminer.com/introduction-the-obama-you-dont-know/article/2508080#.UFvUrbKPXSg

Few if any of his predecessors took the oath of office with higher public hopes for his success than President Obama on Jan. 20, 2009.

Millions of Americans hailed his election as an end to partisanship, a renewal of the spirit of compromise and a reinvigoration of the nation's highest ideals at home and abroad.

Above all, as America's first black chief executive, Obama symbolized the healing of long-festering wounds that were the terrible national legacy of slavery, the Reconstruction Era and Jim Crow. We would be, finally, one nation.

But after nearly four years in office, Obama has become a sharply polarizing figure.

His admirers believe he deserves a special place alongside Wilson, the Roosevelts and LBJ as one of the architects of benevolent government.

His critics believe he is trying to remake America in the image of Europe's social democracies, replacing America's ethos of independence and individual enterprise with a welfare state inflamed by class divisions.

In an effort to get a clearer picture of Obama -- his shaping influences, his core beliefs, his political ambitions and his accomplishments -- The Washington Examiner conducted a four-month inquiry, interviewing dozens of his supporters and detractors in Chicago and elsewhere, and studying countless court transcripts, government reports and other official documents.

Over the years and in two autobiographies, Obama has presented himself to the world as many things, including radical community organizer, idealistic civil rights lawyer, dynamic reformer in the Illinois and U.S. senates, and, finally, the cool presidential voice of postpartisan hope and change.

With his air of reasonableness and moderation, he has projected a remarkably likable persona. Even in the midst of a historically dirty campaign for re-election, his likability numbers remain impressive, as seen in a recent AP-GFK Poll that found 53 percent of adults have a favorable view of him.

But beyond the spin and the polls, a starkly different picture emerges. It is a portrait of a man quite unlike his image, not a visionary reformer but rather a classic Chicago machine pol who thrives on rewarding himself and his friends with the spoils of public office, and who uses his position to punish his enemies.

Peter Schweizer captures this other Obama with a bracing statistic in his book "Throw Them All Out," published last year. In the Obama economic stimulus program's Department of Energy loans, companies owned and run by Obama contributors and friends, like Solyndra's George Kaiser, received $16.4 billion. Those not linked to the president got only $4.1 billion. The Energy Department is far from the only federal program in which favoritism has heavily influenced federal grants.

To paraphrase Tammany Hall's George Washington Plunkitt, Obama has seen his opportunities and taken them, over and over.

- Mark Tapscott / Executive Editor