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by Sock Puppet on 02 June 2011 - 20:06
@hexe,
LF addressed me with her nonsense comment "SP..you are sooo good at telling what other people think and why they do what they do, you must be psychic...or have sixth sense...do you see dead people?"
So her comment is okay and has a ton to do with the topic at hand. I am disgusted that she has no clue what happened with Janice, but here she is sticking her ass in something she should not be in as she does not know the whole story.
To the work thing, she is the one who in posts and pm's says she is at work all the time. So, it makes sense when she is here all day posting and saying she is working-it is obvious she is milking her employer.
@ Laura,
You need all the facts of LF before you comment about my comments.
Ace,
Whatever. Chase her all you want. I hope you like mad husbands. What is his name? Hmmm. Could it be Mike?
What is that saying-you are only as good as the company you keep. I say let them keep her.
LF addressed me with her nonsense comment "SP..you are sooo good at telling what other people think and why they do what they do, you must be psychic...or have sixth sense...do you see dead people?"
So her comment is okay and has a ton to do with the topic at hand. I am disgusted that she has no clue what happened with Janice, but here she is sticking her ass in something she should not be in as she does not know the whole story.
To the work thing, she is the one who in posts and pm's says she is at work all the time. So, it makes sense when she is here all day posting and saying she is working-it is obvious she is milking her employer.
@ Laura,
You need all the facts of LF before you comment about my comments.
Ace,
Whatever. Chase her all you want. I hope you like mad husbands. What is his name? Hmmm. Could it be Mike?
What is that saying-you are only as good as the company you keep. I say let them keep her.
by VomMarischal on 02 June 2011 - 20:06
No, it's not the truth. We are talking about Hans as a forum owner, and I already said he can do what he likes there. It's his forum, and I fully support that he can do what he likes with it. I may have other issues with him, but that is totally irrelevant to this discussion. Why are you trying to go off topic?
by VomMarischal on 02 June 2011 - 20:06
Oh, you are a peanut brain and not worth arguing with. Think whatever makes you happy.
by 4pack on 02 June 2011 - 20:06
Ever heard the term "guilty by association"? It's why I try to pick my friends and battles wisely.
Like we have all said, Hans is free to do as he likes but so are we all, and I hope others like me take business elsewhere if he continues to give Janice Fartmess a safe place to spew bile.
Like we have all said, Hans is free to do as he likes but so are we all, and I hope others like me take business elsewhere if he continues to give Janice Fartmess a safe place to spew bile.
by Sock Puppet on 02 June 2011 - 20:06
VM,
It is to deflect off the topic.
I told all of you she would do this again and was in fact doing it again. I had people flat out attack me over this. I was right some of you were wrong and you are wrong about this.
Would you have as a member a child molester on a site with kids on it? What makes any of you feel an animal abuser should be allowed to talk animals on a forum. YOU PEOPLE ARE ENABLING HER. Just like the people who would not speak out against her enabled her. This is the same thing.
Everyone who said she has changed sure has egg on their faces. I can name them.
Ski
Maggie
Nona
Kimmelot
Crysbuck
Diane
Have I missed anyone, VM?
I am sure others played a role, but it was to enable her by not speaking out against her.
It is to deflect off the topic.
I told all of you she would do this again and was in fact doing it again. I had people flat out attack me over this. I was right some of you were wrong and you are wrong about this.
Would you have as a member a child molester on a site with kids on it? What makes any of you feel an animal abuser should be allowed to talk animals on a forum. YOU PEOPLE ARE ENABLING HER. Just like the people who would not speak out against her enabled her. This is the same thing.
Everyone who said she has changed sure has egg on their faces. I can name them.
Ski
Maggie
Nona
Kimmelot
Crysbuck
Diane
Have I missed anyone, VM?
I am sure others played a role, but it was to enable her by not speaking out against her.
by sueincc on 02 June 2011 - 21:06
Can I just say I am so DAMN glad Janice Bartmess has been banned from this site and is not allowed to post on any forum I am a part of, and furthermore, I too would jump away from any forum where the twisted bitch was welcomed.
I believe it was Ace who said:
"I think there are peoples views on THIS forum that are dispicable and ugly but I just choose to ignore them. Again my way of handling it. We all handle things differently. I certainly understand your viewpoint and have no issue with you handling it your way."
Wow, really? You want to compare people with whom you have a difference of opinion to a convicted, unapologetic, serial animal abuser? You have got to be joking! Beyond that, there is a world of difference between people I don't like and people who are known serial animal abusers. So while I may be fine with ignoring people I don't like, you can bet your ass I refuse to associate in any way, shape, or form with known animal abusers.
The fact is Janice Bartmess has NEVER accepted responsibility for what she has been CONVICTED of doing, and I believe a big part of the reason why she continues to escalate and repeat her nasty ass offences to animals and now humans, is because she finds people who are willing to patronize her and welcome her with open arms either because they are naive or because they want to take advantage of her knowledge, or some other really stupid reason.
I believe it was Ace who said:
"I think there are peoples views on THIS forum that are dispicable and ugly but I just choose to ignore them. Again my way of handling it. We all handle things differently. I certainly understand your viewpoint and have no issue with you handling it your way."
Wow, really? You want to compare people with whom you have a difference of opinion to a convicted, unapologetic, serial animal abuser? You have got to be joking! Beyond that, there is a world of difference between people I don't like and people who are known serial animal abusers. So while I may be fine with ignoring people I don't like, you can bet your ass I refuse to associate in any way, shape, or form with known animal abusers.
The fact is Janice Bartmess has NEVER accepted responsibility for what she has been CONVICTED of doing, and I believe a big part of the reason why she continues to escalate and repeat her nasty ass offences to animals and now humans, is because she finds people who are willing to patronize her and welcome her with open arms either because they are naive or because they want to take advantage of her knowledge, or some other really stupid reason.
by Sock Puppet on 02 June 2011 - 21:06
@ Sue,
LOL.
I take door 3, "or some other really stupid reason".
Don't we have sex assualt websites and people look up there neighbors and then stay away from them. Not so with our serial animal abuser, people know and they still want things to do with her.
I dare any person who thinks it is all good to send one of your dogs to Janice and see how you feel after you find out your dog lived in piles of it's own waste.
Now she has abused her own mother.
How many of the above named people still believe it is all good and she has changed?
Any person who knowingly visits a site that allows her to post is just as guilty. You are enabling her by supporting sites that allow her to post.
Support her abuse by frequenting sites that allow her. Gawddddddddddddddddddddd.
LOL.
I take door 3, "or some other really stupid reason".
Don't we have sex assualt websites and people look up there neighbors and then stay away from them. Not so with our serial animal abuser, people know and they still want things to do with her.
I dare any person who thinks it is all good to send one of your dogs to Janice and see how you feel after you find out your dog lived in piles of it's own waste.
Now she has abused her own mother.
How many of the above named people still believe it is all good and she has changed?
Any person who knowingly visits a site that allows her to post is just as guilty. You are enabling her by supporting sites that allow her to post.
Support her abuse by frequenting sites that allow her. Gawddddddddddddddddddddd.
by Mystere on 02 June 2011 - 21:06
You are known by the enemies you make and the friends you keep. Personally, I am quite proud of having the enemies that I do--each and every one of them is a person no one trusts or respects, because they are untrustworthy (some convicted felons) and unworthy of respect.
At the same time, I am even more proud of the friends I keep. They share the same values (although not always the same opinion) They are enablers, just as I enable them.: to be the best that we can be. But...one of the things I have always considered to be a right, if not a duty, of a friend: they tell you when your stuff stinks. They will stand by you, but they don't stand by when you are heading for the edge of a cliff.
Janice apparently has no friend who can head her off from the precipice and Hans apparently doesn't mind going over it, either. I don't buy the "he's -from- a -fomerly -communist- country- so- he- doesn't -like -censorship [not censure, which is not the same thing]." I don't buy the "interest in her bloodlines," either. I recall that there were people jockying for those dogs, when she was last arrested. I don't recall that Hans was one of them. ( I could be wrong, but that is my recollection).
Only Americans seem to think that they can say anything , anytime and anywhere. That is not true in the rest of the world. Some governments know that allowing all speech can lead to intolerable and unconscionable actions; sometimes those actions are, or can be, far worse than "mere" censorship.
At the same time, I am even more proud of the friends I keep. They share the same values (although not always the same opinion) They are enablers, just as I enable them.: to be the best that we can be. But...one of the things I have always considered to be a right, if not a duty, of a friend: they tell you when your stuff stinks. They will stand by you, but they don't stand by when you are heading for the edge of a cliff.
Janice apparently has no friend who can head her off from the precipice and Hans apparently doesn't mind going over it, either. I don't buy the "he's -from- a -fomerly -communist- country- so- he- doesn't -like -censorship [not censure, which is not the same thing]." I don't buy the "interest in her bloodlines," either. I recall that there were people jockying for those dogs, when she was last arrested. I don't recall that Hans was one of them. ( I could be wrong, but that is my recollection).
Only Americans seem to think that they can say anything , anytime and anywhere. That is not true in the rest of the world. Some governments know that allowing all speech can lead to intolerable and unconscionable actions; sometimes those actions are, or can be, far worse than "mere" censorship.
by mobjack on 02 June 2011 - 22:06
Hans is not here to answer the questions put to him and IMO, it's not right to be bantering about his decisions on here without him offering his side. Hans can keep her on his forum if he likes. It's his forum and his choice. My choice is with everyone who refuses to go there while she is a member.
Sock, why don't you go over to Hans forum and bitch about enabling Janice over there instead of here? That might get you a little more attention and results.
by VomMarischal on 02 June 2011 - 22:06
"feeding her sick ego trip delusions"
Right on. That is the main reason she should not be allowed to post on any site, or why nobody should visit a site where she is allowed to post.
Right on. That is the main reason she should not be allowed to post on any site, or why nobody should visit a site where she is allowed to post.
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