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Slamdunc

by Slamdunc on 22 December 2012 - 02:12

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by Preston on 22 December 2012 - 07:12

Dunc, for an LE you are remarkably naive. You ought to know all about the "five families" that still live on today and still take 10% off all construction jobs. And don't even try to tell me you haven't heard of Serpico and the "meat-eaters".  Haven't you ever talked to any drug task force men or intel unit folks?  Most will tell you about how the real world works if you ask them.  The litmus test for basic knowledge of the real world is whether or not you believe Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone nut assassin that murdered JFK and not part of any conspiracy. The Assassinations Records Release Project has already provided numerous documents proving it was covered up by the USG and was a conspiracy with more than one shooter. You probably still think Osama Bin Laden did 911 from a cave in Afghanistan from his cell phone, able to run 17 USAF/Nat Guard readiness exercises that day and make Norad and all rooftop defensive missile batteries and interceptors stand down. Most NYC police intel will  tell you they don't believe it but have been threatened or told their careers are over if they talk about it publicly.  You ought to know better.

Now if the authorities really want to stop these staged mass shooting, investigate and arrest those folks responsible for the "Franklin Coverup" pedophile scandal.  These folks are still at it and run DC by use of illegal child sex.  here is the puioneer investigation report that was scheduled to be aired on National TV but pulled at the last minute under threat by a top US Senator who is a Pedophile and blackmails others who use his kids.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma22jxA5xZY  (discretion advised) Dunc, don't even try to deny this story.  It was fully and publicly verified by William Colby, former Director of the CIA.  He gave his life to expose this.

by Ibrahim on 27 December 2012 - 07:12

I received this by e mail (I agree with some and disagree with some of the author's views), I post it as an example of the opposite extreme viewpoint, it's always worth having an idea what others think.


Connecticut school shooting: America gets a taste of its own medicine

 

Driven by hate, another homegrown terrorist goes on the rampage – this would have been the headline if Adam Lanza had been called Mohammed Lanza. Similar headlines were seen after the Oklahoma bombings; the media spared not time in tarnishing the Muslims even before the basic facts were known. Like Timothy McVeigh and Anders Breivik, Adam Lanza is also white with Christian heritage. Will the media now scrutinise the link between the ethnicity and religion of these men and the acts of gratuitous violence? 

There is no apparent political motive; the targets were innocent children who could not have caused any harm to Adam Lanza. The only possible ‘justification’ Adam Lanza could have argued is - these children posed a threat to him in the future; hence, he took some sort of pre-emptive strike by killing them. This is the same argument employed by the Zionists when they deliberately target women and children in Palestine, and the US has done the same to some extent after 9/11; shoot first then ask questions.

Of course, everyone sympathises with the parents of those innocent children, however, non-Americans will point out the international dimension to this issue. It reeks of hypocrisy for Obama to come on TV and shed tears, when the US has been doing the same in foreign countries since the Spanish-American wars at the turn of the 20th century. Only few weeks back, the US President ignored the dead children in Gaza and continued to defend the Israelis dropping bombs over civilian populated areas. The Pakistanis and the Afghanis will point out the awful killer drones that have consumed so many innocent children. Now America should understand how the parents in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen and occupied Palestine feel. One man’s collateral damage is another man’s child!

The list below highlights major atrocities like the Connecticut school shooting that have captured national and international headlines; many more incidents do not. For example, from 2002 to 2006, single cases of shootings have occurred each year and in 2007, 7 cases of shootings were reported.  

  • 1984: James Oliver Huberty shoots dead 21 people at a McDonald's in California
  • 1986: Postal worker Pat Sherrill kills 14 people at a post office in Oklahoma
  • 1991: George Hennard kills 23 people at a cafeteria in Texas
  • 1999: Two students at Columbine high school kill 13 and injure 20, before killing themselves
  • 2007: A student kills 32 and injures dozens more at Virginia Tech university
  • 2009: 13 people are killed in a mass shooting at Ford Hood military base in Texas
  • 2012: James Holmes kills 12 people and injures 58 at a cinema in Aurora, Colorado

President Obama correctly reflected on the empirical data and said: “As a country we have been through this too many times”. Why is America producing these violent angry young men? Instead of addressing this pertinent point, he suggests the need for tighter gun control.  For sure the reduction in the supply of weapons will contribute to reducing gun related crimes, but not the crime itself, because the perpetrator will find other ways to bring harm; it’s not the gun that kills but the person pulling the trigger. The primary cause is the motive.

Accordingly, American needs to ask what motivates such individuals to commit massacres. What ideas and values have been injected in their minds? There is no Al-Qaeda here, no radical Imams, there is no foreign influence. Therefore, America needs to look in the mirror for answers which may pose a degree of challenge for a society that has a culture of blaming outsiders.   

Any impartial observer will point out that American history is soaked in the blood of innocents, and its popular culture espouses violence. The superficial paradigm of the good guys hunting the bad guys that is often seen in the movies and has shaped the mindset of the nation was invented not to promote right and wrong, but to glorify violence. America as a society profits from violence and bloodshed, it continues to develop, stockpile and trade with lethal weapons whilst lecturing about peace.

Internally, US public opinion and the media are dominated by Zionist-Christian militancy where the interest of Israel is put before the US itself, and then you have religious fanaticism and xenophobia emanating from the right-wing Christians including the radical Republicans. All these factors have contributed to creating a sadistic mindset that is often visible in the actions of it soldiers, on and off the battle field. 

Here is a bitter pill for the American establishment. Instead of demonising Muslims and Islam, maybe they can learn something from them, as can Muslims learn from the American success. Do you ever hear of a young man going into a school in Saudi Arabia, Egypt or Pakistan and commit such atrocities? Do you ever hear of serial killers in the Islamic world? This is not an issue of genetics, it is one of values. Islam teaches that ultimately we will be held accountable for our deeds, and our freedom in terms of freewill should be exercised within those parameters. And such values need to be enforced through tough penal codes, where crimes are not rewarded but punished.  Although Christianity professes the same values, however it has been diluted and marginalised in society.

Instead of allowing the Zionists promote hate through the media, and create a rift with the Islamic world to serve Israeli foreign policy, and keep the ordinary Americans ignorant, confined to the trash culture of Jerry Springer, Fox ‘News’, and stop bigots like O’Reilly and Pam Geller, it should look to liberate itself and re-examine the values promoted through the media and popular culture.

Yamin Zakaria (yamin@radicalviews.org, #yaminzakaria)

Published on 16/12/2012

London, UK

www.radicalviews.org

http://yaminzakaria.blogspot.com


by Blitzen on 27 December 2012 - 14:12

It's going to be hard for most Americans to read that, Ibrahim,but if they do and think about it there should be some thought provoking informaton to take away. We have lived in a culture of guns and violence since the first colonist set foot in the new world. Before that many of the tribes of American Indians  were war-like and fought among themselves.  By nature man is not a passive race; it was survival of the fittest.  You can't talk to a man with a shotgun in his hand.

In your part of the world the violence has been as bad as here, just manifest in a different way. Maybe that's because of who has the weapons and who doesnt. It's complicated and I don't pretend to have any answers. We feel as if we are far better off in the US than most living in the Far East unless one is an oil magnate living in Dubai. 

What I do know is that unless we come to some sort of reasonable gun control that will keep lunatics and bullies from obtaining weaons that can kill many people in a matter of minutes we will continue status quo.  However, just try to discuss any sort of reasonable gun control and you can see by reading this forum where it goes, nowhere very fast.

Makes me wonder - what the hell IS wrong with us...really?


 

by Blitzen on 27 December 2012 - 14:12

Preston, is there anything you like about America?

J Basler

by J Basler on 27 December 2012 - 16:12

PSYCHIATRICTIMES :
                                   Dosen't want people that aren't signed up on their web site to read the article oh well.

Two Moons

by Two Moons on 27 December 2012 - 17:12

Ibrahim,
this is not about religion or different cultures, and in your part of the world there is mass killing, usually with explosives.
Also perhaps genocide, sometimes disguised as civil war.

I would not want to be in a court room in your part of the world.

I also do not believe Islam to be any less violent than Christianity or Judaism.



Blitzen,
there is nothing wrong with (us) except that most of (us) are ignorant to the realities of the world (we) live in.

Us,
no not us, them maybe.
Who is us?
You?

Moons.

by Blitzen on 27 December 2012 - 17:12

I disagee, Moons. When we kill way more people every year with guns than all free world countries combined,, there is something fundamentally  wrong going on. Maybe it's the result of what you said a few days ago- a lack of parenting. Maybe we are so desensitized to violence that we accept it as normal. Maybe it's on our genome. I don't know, do you? It's complicated and multifactored. I do know that we need to come to some sort of compromise and soon if we ever hope to end these senseless mass murders using automatic weapons. IMO one place to start is trying to identfy where these guns come from in the first place.

Who is us/we? Us/we is you and me. I was trying to keep it general and not call out certain factions of the population. But.....I'm pretty sure you already knew that.

Two Moons

by Two Moons on 27 December 2012 - 17:12

The problem is people who blame guns or who actually think they could take all the guns away somehow like magic.
That's just not real and is never going to happen.

They are not automatic weapons Blitzen, they are semi-automatic, you do know the difference don't you?

This gun ban crap will have to run it's course but after the last one I do not think it will even get off the ground.
All this will do is give windfall profits to a few.

It won't stop what it is you fear, this only makes it more sensational for the next one who follows.



by Preston on 27 December 2012 - 17:12

Blitzen, yes I love America, especially the way it was before the USG urban centers using the Cosa Nostra and other organized crime groups as cutouts/partners.       I loved the freedom and liberty and the ability to create businesses, pursue careers, numerous excellent business opportunities and basic community morality which has been seriously eroded the last twenty-five years.  We never locked our door at night and left our keys in the car ignition at night with our garage door open back in the 1950's.  Kids played outside with no fear of being kidnapped or murdered. We had neighborhood picnics and folks helped each other.  We had honest police that lived in the community and knew everyone.  Kids were disciplined at school and the parents backed the teachers 100%. There was almost no crime.

I love the US Constitution and Bill of Rights.  I love the Republic that our Founding Fathers built. I love the Internet and the free access to information like never before.  We have a lot of great people in America. I love the freedom to worship God Almighty in the way I choose.  Basically I love America and most Americans.  I know that the USG has been hijacked by offshore banks and corporations who are asset stripping us of everything including our freedom and liberty and are working hard to destroy our Constitution, Bill or Rights, Republic and our language, culture and borders.  All with the goal of destroying the Republic.  We have enemies within the gates. 

Yes there is much to love, and that is why I am doing everything I can within reason to share what I have learned to wake up the people who basically have been propangandized and misled by the major mass media (6) who are USG propaganda dispensers. Basically we have an offshore bankster system that has hijacked our Govt and owns almost all of our politicians because they can print/issue all the money it needs with no oversight allowed (crazy huh?). Here is an article that explains how it was done. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/06/20/hijacking-and-abuse-of-war-powers-to-take-down-the-american-republic/

The window on freedom and liberty is closing fast because the USG has made a commitment to go communitarian i.e. globalist NWO.  Here is the USG's game plan for those that dare to open up their minds and learn about it:
http://rediscover911.com/the-actual-reasons-nation-states-institute-false-flag-attacks/

Our USG is filled with TRAITORS at the top and some are dual citizens that serve another country first.  Here is a famous quote from Cicero:

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”


If folks educate themselves, become informed and share this information with all their friends and neighbors, we can turn this around and take back our great Republic.












 


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