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by Shtal on 26 December 2012 - 01:12
to establish seven day week for us
by Felloffher on 26 December 2012 - 01:12
Maybe we can talk about that later if you wish.
I have seen all of Hovind's non-sence regarding the great flood. So, if you are going to hang your hat on his claims, I won't even entertain the idea of discussing this with you.
by Felloffher on 26 December 2012 - 01:12
to establish seven day week for us
I don't need to, you've established your argument based on a literal seven day week.
by Shtal on 26 December 2012 - 01:12
I am busy tonight, monday will be good.
Shtal.
by Felloffher on 26 December 2012 - 01:12
by Shtal on 26 December 2012 - 05:12
If you remember the history that napoleon tried to change it to 10 day week and it was a disaster, we are just kind of build with biological clock, work six days and rest one day. And it is normal days…God wasn’t telling Jews to work six thousand years and then rest. I think the seventh day week was establish because of the creation and the biological clock is just normal, God is just did that way so we could have seventh days.
Felloffeher wrote: There is zero evidence that this event took place.
Take a look at San Andrea fault, Hayward fault, new Madrid fault.
Shtal.
by Felloffher on 26 December 2012 - 07:12
I think you are wrong about seven day weeks being the norm.
"Weeks" in other calendars
Periods termed "weeks" in calendars unrelated to the Judeo-Christian tradition.
[edit] Three-day
The names of the days of the week (aste) in Guipuscoan Basque point to an earlier three-day week.[6]
- astelehena ("week-first", Monday)
- asteartea ("week-between", Tuesday)
- asteazkena ("week-last", Wednesday)
[edit] Four-day
Main article: Igbo Culture#Calendar (Iguafo Igbo)
The Igbo of Nigeria have a traditional calendar with a four-day week. This "market week" features prominently in the fiction of Chinua Achebe.
[edit] Five-day
Main article: Javanese calendar
The Javanese people of Indonesia have a five-day week known as the Pasaran cycle. This is still in use today and superimposed with seven-day week of the Gregorian calendar and Islamic calendar to become what is known as the 35-day Wetonan Cycle.
[edit] Six-day
Main article: Akan Calendar
The Akan people of West Africa have a 42-day cycle known as Adaduanan. The Adaduanan cycle appears to be based on an older six-day week, still extant in some northern Guan communities such as the Nchumuru, on which is superimposed a seven-day week which may have been brought south with itinerant traders from the Savannah.[7] The six-day week is referred to as Nanson (literally seven-days), reflecting an inclusive numbering system.
[edit] Eight-day
[edit] Nundinal cycle
Main article: Roman calendar#Nundinal cycle
The ancient Etruscans developed an eight-day market week known as the nundinal cycle around the 8th or 7th century BC. This was passed on to the Romans no later than the 6th century BC. As Rome expanded, it encountered the seven-day week and for a time attempted to include both. The popularity of the seven-day rhythm won and the eight-day week disappeared forever.
The cycle of seven days, named after the sun, the moon, and the five planets visible to the naked eye, was already customary in the time of Justin Martyr, who wrote of the Christians meeting on the Day of the Sun (Sunday).[8]
Emperor Constantine eventually established the seven-day week in the Roman calendar in AD 321.[9]
[edit] Celts
Further information: Celtic calendar
With regards to measuring time, the Celts regarded darkness as taking precedence over light, so used periods of darkness such as night and winter to begin their calculations of time. This meant that the first period of time in a "week" was a night, followed by a day. Further, they also counted the ending night period, giving rise to periods of time with more nights than days. In Irish, the term nómad is used to signify a small number of days and is exactly the length of the nine night week as in co cend nomaide - a period of time with nine nights bracketing eight days. The nine nights divided nicely into a sidereal month of 27 nights. In Welsh a similar word wythnos meaning "a week" literally means "an eight-night" since it started and ended with a period of night bracketing seven days. Similarly a fortnight pythewnos means "a fifteen night".[10][11]
[edit] Nine-day
The Gediminas Sceptre, a medieval Lithuanian calendar. Showing 12 months and 9 days in a week
[edit] Baltic calendars
In the 14th century, the Grand Duchy of Lithuania used a solar-lunar calendar. The structure of this calendar was understood with the help of the so-called Gediminas Sceptre discovered in 1680.[12]
Similarly in Latvia petroglyphs were found in 1987, which are considered to show nine day calendar with three weeks in a month.[13]
Archaeological evidence suggests that the week of the ancient Balts was nine days long. Thus, the sidereal month must have been divided into three parts.[14]
[edit] Ten-day
[edit] China, Japan
The Chinese ten-day week went as far back as the Xia Dynasty (2070-1600 BC).[15] The law in the Han Dynasty (206 BC – AD 220) required officials of the empire to rest every five days, called mu (沐), while it was changed into 10 days in the Tang Dynasty (AD 618 – 907), called huan or xún (旬). Months were almost three weeks long (alternating 29 and 30 days to keep in line with the lunation). The weeks were labelled shàng xún (上旬), zhōng xún (中旬), and xià xún (下旬) which mean roughly "upper", "middle" and "lower" week.
Markets in Japan followed the Chinese jun (旬) system; see Japanese calendar.
[edit] Egypt
Main article: Egyptian calendar
Ancient Egypt had a ten-day week, three weeks per month with five extra days at the end of the year.
Fault lines are of little interest to me, I'm far more interested in evidence of a great flood on our continents. It baffles me that Egyptians and Asians never mention the global flood in their well documented history that pre-dates the events laid out in the bible.
by GSDtravels on 27 December 2012 - 07:12
by Shtal on 28 December 2012 - 04:12
Wrong answer!
Who wrote the Book of Genesis?
(From the ‘Questions and Answers’ DVD by Dr. Kent Hovind)
This is really a fascinating question. Many scholars believe that there are four different authors to the book of Genesis. J, E, P, D for Yawest, Eloist, Priestly, and Deuterist. They say that there are different styles of writing in Genesis and therefore, there are these four different authors. They are actually, partially correct. There are different styles of writing in Genesis. If you look at Genesis chapter one it states that “God created,” “God said,” “God saw,” “God divided,” “God called,” and so on. 31 times the word ‘God’ is used in Genesis chapter one. When you go to chapter two of Genesis starting with verse 4 there is a change. The wording used is now “LORD God” all throughout chapter two. It is using a different name and a totally different style of writing than that of chapter one of Genesis. It is obvious that a different person is writing chapter two.
So who wrote the Book of Genesis? Mark 12:26 says, “…have ye not read in the book of Moses, how in the bush God spake unto him, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob?” The book of Moses here is obviously referring to the book of Exodus. So, the New Testament tells us that Moses wrote the book of Exodus.
In Deuteronomy 25:5 it says, “If brethren dwell together, and one of them die, and have no child, the wife of the dead shall not marry without unto a stranger: her husband’s brother shall go in unto her, and take her to him to wife, and perform the duty of an husband’s brother unto her.” Furthermore, in Luke 20:28 it says, “Saying, Master, Moses wrote unto us, If any man’s brother die, having a wife, and he die without children, that his brother should take his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother.” Therefore, the New Testament also tells us that Moses wrote Deuteronomy.
With a little searching through the scriptures you can prove conclusively that Moses wrote Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. The Bible never mentions that Moses was the author of Genesis. So who wrote Genesis? Actually Moses was the editor of Genesis. 
There are 10 different eyewitness accounts in Genesis. Adam actually wrote part of Genesis. 10 different times in the book of Genesis you will find the phrase “these are the generations of.” This is the switching phrase where a new author is now taking over. Apparently God wrote the first chapter. There is no way anyone else would have known those things. But for chapter 2 Adam was there and was an eyewitness to what was happening. Adam wrote chapters 2, 3, and 4.
Keep in mind that Moses edited Genesis from 10 eyewitness accounts. The accounts were probably written on clay tablets. Noah would have taken these tablets on the ark with him. The fact that people wrote down there account before Moses did does not mean that they got it right. The skeptics will say that the Samarian legend was written before Moses was even alive. They then imply that Moses copied from them. This is simply not so. If you have several people that are eyewitnesses to an event and they all write a story about what they saw, the first one to publish his story isn’t necessarily the one that got the story right. The fact that somebody published first doesn’t mean that they got the story right.
Genesis 5 says “these are the generations of Adam.” Adam is signing off and a new author is taking over. Genesis chapter 6:9 says, “These are the generations of Noah…” Noah is signing off there. Noah actually wrote chapter 5 and part of chapter 6. In chapter 10:1, “Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood.” Noah’s sons wrote part of Genesis. Shem was apparently interested in keeping track of where all the kids and grandkids were going. Genesis chapter 10 is known as the Table of Nations and it goes through 75 different, original nationalities. Some people are simply interested in genealogies. Apparently Shem was one of these people.
Genesis 11:27, “Now these are the generations of Terah…” Genesis 25:12, “Now these are the generations of Ishmael…” Genesis 25:19, “And these are the generations of Isaac…” Genesis 36:1, “Now these are the generations of Esau, who is Edom.”
When you read through chapter 36 of Genesis you will notice that one of the writers was interested in dukes, i.e. “the dukes that came of Esau,” “duke Timnah,” “duke Alvah,” “duke Jetheth,” etc. It is very interesting to note that no dates are given for these ‘dukes’ and how old they were when their sons were born. The only ones that get the dates mentioned as to how old they were when their sons were born are the ones that are in direct line to the genealogy of Jesus Christ.
Jacob also wrote part of Genesis. Genesis 37:2, “These are the generations of Jacob.” Ten different times in Genesis you see the phrase, “these are the generations of.” There were 10 different authors, all of them eyewitnesses: which makes it even better!
http://www.truthingenesis.com/book-of-genesis-authors.html
by Shtal on 28 December 2012 - 07:12
The Big Bang idea began with a Belgian astronomer, Georges Edward Lemaitre. And according to Isaac Asimov, Lemaitre conceived this mass to be “no more than a few lights-years in diameter. At the very least, that would be two light-years or about twelve trillions miles across - when exploded. Later by year 1965 that figure was reduced to 275 millions mile across. And by 1972 it was reduced to 71 millions miles, and by 1974 it dropped to only 54 thousand miles. Finally by 1983 it came to “a trillionth the diameter of a proton,” but wait…. finally in our time, evolutionist saying now, to nothing at all, “A singularity”
They are saying nothing exploded: nothing….and here we are talking on this forum. And that is what science text book teaches.
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