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by Carlin on 25 November 2013 - 10:11
http://management.fortune.cnn.com/2013/11/25/black-friday-ate-thanksgiving/?section=magazines_fortune

by Two Moons on 25 November 2013 - 11:11
To save or not to save, if your buying quality you already have.
The machine knows us well.

by Carlin on 27 November 2013 - 10:11
"If You Shop on Thanksgiving, You Are Part of the Problem"
"I'm a capitalist. It's not my religion, I won't bow before its altar, I won't kiss its ring, but I believe in capitalism. It's an invention of man and it involves money, so it's not perfect, but I've never heard anyone suggest a better system. So I'm a capitalist.
I am not, however, a consumerist. I like the freedom and innovation of capitalism; I loathe the materialism and gluttony of consumerism. There's a popular misconception that capitalism and consumerism are inextricably linked; that one naturally involves and requires the other. But this is a fallacy. Certainly the "stimulus" programs a few years ago ought to have dispelled this notion entirely. The government perverted the free market and elected to hand free money to millions of people, hoping that they'd go out and buy a bunch of stuff with it. This was consumerism at the expense of capitalism, and it revealed our priorities: forget freedom, forget principle -- just buy stuff."
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            -Matt Walsh, Huffington Post.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/matt-walsh/shopping-on-thanksgiving_b_4310109.html

by Ruger1 on 29 November 2013 - 04:11
 ....
....Its hard for even me to believe, but I did it !!...I went shopping on Black Friday
 . Now mind you it was after midnight; not much after, but after. So I did not technically shop on Thanksgiving..
. Now mind you it was after midnight; not much after, but after. So I did not technically shop on Thanksgiving.. ...
...No lines, no commotion either,,I simply went to Kohls.com and swiped until my heart was content,,,
 ,,,What fun!!,,,
,,,What fun!!,,,@Carlin can we still be friends?,,


by Carlin on 29 November 2013 - 10:11
@Carlin can we still be friends?
All I can say us whatever you bought me better be really nice, lol.
Seriously though, there really seems to be a particularly small contingent of people who both disagree with the commercialization of every part of Western life, and believe that it is possible to prevent what appears to the foregone conclusion. I didn't shop yesterday, and won't until tomorrow, but it looks like I'm in a very small minority.
by beetree on 29 November 2013 - 11:11
 
  The big kid will be hitting the mall with his friends later in the day. He's having pie for breakfast, too.


by Hundmutter on 29 November 2013 - 12:11
have Thanksgiving) there are moves afoot to introduce 'Black Friday', with
its large discounts, here ! I kid you not.

by Carlin on 29 November 2013 - 12:11

by Mindhunt on 29 November 2013 - 15:11
 .  We had friends from Turkey, Argentina, Germany, Slovenia, Norway, and my son's roommates (who spent their first ever Thanksgiving in this country with my family) from South Africa, Bosnia, and Hungary.  We all discussed the crazy consumer traditionn of leaving family and friends to shop.  After dropping my son, his girlfriend, and his roommates off (with care packages big enough to feed them for the next week), I drove by the local Walmart which is on my way home.  The parking lot was packed to capacity with a line of cars both directions on a 4 lane road causing enough of a problem that they had police officers directing traffic.  My neighbor works as a cashier for that same Walmart and said earlier she will barely have time to spend with family before she has to rush off to work.  People who shop on these goofy Holiday "sales" seem to forget about the people who work at the stores.  Unfortunately for my neighbor, she can't afford to pass up the day of work, plus she and others who work for many of these companies who open for Thanksgiving day shopping and such, say if they opt to miss work, it usually bites them down the road when it comes to promotions, raises, day off picks and so on.
.  We had friends from Turkey, Argentina, Germany, Slovenia, Norway, and my son's roommates (who spent their first ever Thanksgiving in this country with my family) from South Africa, Bosnia, and Hungary.  We all discussed the crazy consumer traditionn of leaving family and friends to shop.  After dropping my son, his girlfriend, and his roommates off (with care packages big enough to feed them for the next week), I drove by the local Walmart which is on my way home.  The parking lot was packed to capacity with a line of cars both directions on a 4 lane road causing enough of a problem that they had police officers directing traffic.  My neighbor works as a cashier for that same Walmart and said earlier she will barely have time to spend with family before she has to rush off to work.  People who shop on these goofy Holiday "sales" seem to forget about the people who work at the stores.  Unfortunately for my neighbor, she can't afford to pass up the day of work, plus she and others who work for many of these companies who open for Thanksgiving day shopping and such, say if they opt to miss work, it usually bites them down the road when it comes to promotions, raises, day off picks and so on.
by Hundmutter on 29 November 2013 - 15:11
be progressing from the substance of the Thanksgiving celebration we don't have.

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