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by loujuangsd on 12 May 2010 - 18:05
Steve1
She does NOT know my kennel; has never even been to my home, although I have been to hers. What concrete proof has vonissk provided other than statements of her opinion?
She does NOT know my kennel; has never even been to my home, although I have been to hers. What concrete proof has vonissk provided other than statements of her opinion?
by Two Moons on 12 May 2010 - 18:05
Just because,
Moons.
Moons.
by Uber Land on 12 May 2010 - 19:05
I didn't have to make Susan aware of the post by vonissk. she already knew of the thread but refused to join in on the shit slinging that everyone else so much enjoys. I'd say she had alot more class than most here.
Steve1 and two moons seem to be a few of the clear minded, reasonable people left on this board.
vonissk is a back stabber, and before pointing fingers about breed worthy dogs, take a look at the latest pics of your own dog Mauli, and judge her instead of being so damn kennel blind. only thing that dog has going for it is the pigment.
Steve1 and two moons seem to be a few of the clear minded, reasonable people left on this board.
vonissk is a back stabber, and before pointing fingers about breed worthy dogs, take a look at the latest pics of your own dog Mauli, and judge her instead of being so damn kennel blind. only thing that dog has going for it is the pigment.
by Uber Land on 12 May 2010 - 19:05
I was going to leave this thread alone because it had started to sound more like a animal rights thread with all the shelter and rescue talk, but I can't stand someone lieing and saying only they know the truth.
vonissk knows nothing, never been to Susan's property, and has never seen the BUTTLOAD of pics she takes of her dogs and property. vonissk has just met Susan to stud her dog out and at UKC shows.
and Susan's pup who just made his UKC championship 4 days after his 1 year birthday, I proudly tell everyone he is a littermate to my Penny.
vonissk knows nothing, never been to Susan's property, and has never seen the BUTTLOAD of pics she takes of her dogs and property. vonissk has just met Susan to stud her dog out and at UKC shows.
and Susan's pup who just made his UKC championship 4 days after his 1 year birthday, I proudly tell everyone he is a littermate to my Penny.
by vonissk on 12 May 2010 - 19:05
Thank you Moons. It is drama--everybody has their drama days and today is mine. You have your Mondays and today is mine.
I have written nothing but the truth. Hell it's no big deal for you to come on here Susan because you should come on here and defend yourself. I guess I can't read a website either where you say your dogs are working dogs.........I guess you lied to me when you said you had 3 litters and called me crying over the parvo thing? And if the worst thing you can find to do is throw it in my face about my boy getting kicked out of UKC big deal. You were not right up there when it happened. He did not snap at anybody--he lunged--NEVER SNAPPED--and if people didn't congregate in the doorway it would have been different and I bet that will change too. And as far as Rocket goes the faults he has are NOT going to change with maturity. He is what he is. I am not a breeder and have never claimed to be. My advice to you is if you really want to do well in the breed then quit keeping 20-25 shit dogs and spend your money on something good and do the breed justice. You're not breeding for workability or structure.
And as far as visiting my kennel I don't have one. I have 3 dogs, 1/4 acre, doggy doors and filthy floors from them bringing mud in. Now I am done. I spoke the truth and only the truth..................
I have written nothing but the truth. Hell it's no big deal for you to come on here Susan because you should come on here and defend yourself. I guess I can't read a website either where you say your dogs are working dogs.........I guess you lied to me when you said you had 3 litters and called me crying over the parvo thing? And if the worst thing you can find to do is throw it in my face about my boy getting kicked out of UKC big deal. You were not right up there when it happened. He did not snap at anybody--he lunged--NEVER SNAPPED--and if people didn't congregate in the doorway it would have been different and I bet that will change too. And as far as Rocket goes the faults he has are NOT going to change with maturity. He is what he is. I am not a breeder and have never claimed to be. My advice to you is if you really want to do well in the breed then quit keeping 20-25 shit dogs and spend your money on something good and do the breed justice. You're not breeding for workability or structure.
And as far as visiting my kennel I don't have one. I have 3 dogs, 1/4 acre, doggy doors and filthy floors from them bringing mud in. Now I am done. I spoke the truth and only the truth..................
by Uber Land on 12 May 2010 - 19:05
breeding shit dogs?
whats Mauli? you took a working line dog, bred it to an american bitch and got Mauli.
most people would have considered that breeding down. how good is Mauli, last pic you posted showed a weak back, poor front, weak paterns and feet. not really more than a pet herself.
whats Mauli? you took a working line dog, bred it to an american bitch and got Mauli.
most people would have considered that breeding down. how good is Mauli, last pic you posted showed a weak back, poor front, weak paterns and feet. not really more than a pet herself.
by Uber Land on 12 May 2010 - 19:05
Susan's dogs weren't soo shitty when you were breeding to one of her blues? now you claim to regret that and know better? please!
by loujuangsd on 12 May 2010 - 20:05
Yes, I called you when I lost almost an entire litter this spring to what was then thought to be Parvo, but you need to get your hearing checked. As I said before I have never had 3 litters in one year much less 3 litters at once!
As far as working, my definition of a working dog is not as narrow as yours appears to be that only includes Schutzhund or police work. I consider herding, Therapy, and many other OCCUPATIONS as work.
No I did not see the events leading up to you being asked to remove your dog from the show grounds. I stated the same to the Show Committee when they inquired about it. That's why I put the word "allegedly" in my statement. Perhaps you need to slow down and re-read things before you respond. It is interesting that you never bothered to contest the allegation with UKC.
As for your advice, I will take it for what it's worth. I never said you had a kennel. "She does NOT know my kennel; has never even been to my home, although I have been to hers." In proper grammatical usage, the "hers" refers to you home, which I have been to. I also made no comment about your home other than that I had been there.
I am also happy to know that you are so familiar with my dog's bloodlines that even though you are not a breeder ( I guess if you only provide the stud service it means you aren't a breeder) that you know how my dogs will mature. In the future would you be so kind as to have a look at my dogs when they are 6-7 mos old and evaluate them so I don't have to keep them until they are two-four years old? Some lines mature slower than others. I have watched his parents change and mature over the last 5 years. I have watched siblings of his parents and their offspring grow and mature. I think I have a better idea of what changes should occur than you do so I'll wait a while before I condemn him.
There is no need for profanity. A point of view is always better accepted when it is left out of the discussion.
As far as working, my definition of a working dog is not as narrow as yours appears to be that only includes Schutzhund or police work. I consider herding, Therapy, and many other OCCUPATIONS as work.
No I did not see the events leading up to you being asked to remove your dog from the show grounds. I stated the same to the Show Committee when they inquired about it. That's why I put the word "allegedly" in my statement. Perhaps you need to slow down and re-read things before you respond. It is interesting that you never bothered to contest the allegation with UKC.
As for your advice, I will take it for what it's worth. I never said you had a kennel. "She does NOT know my kennel; has never even been to my home, although I have been to hers." In proper grammatical usage, the "hers" refers to you home, which I have been to. I also made no comment about your home other than that I had been there.
I am also happy to know that you are so familiar with my dog's bloodlines that even though you are not a breeder ( I guess if you only provide the stud service it means you aren't a breeder) that you know how my dogs will mature. In the future would you be so kind as to have a look at my dogs when they are 6-7 mos old and evaluate them so I don't have to keep them until they are two-four years old? Some lines mature slower than others. I have watched his parents change and mature over the last 5 years. I have watched siblings of his parents and their offspring grow and mature. I think I have a better idea of what changes should occur than you do so I'll wait a while before I condemn him.
There is no need for profanity. A point of view is always better accepted when it is left out of the discussion.
by loujuangsd on 12 May 2010 - 20:05
Yes, I called you when I lost almost an entire litter this spring to what was then thought to be Parvo, but you need to get your hearing checked. As I said before I have never had 3 litters in one year much less 3 litters at once!
As far as working, my definition of a working dog is not as narrow as yours appears to be that only includes Schutzhund or police work. I consider herding, Therapy, and many other OCCUPATIONS as work.
No I did not see the events leading up to you being asked to remove your dog from the show grounds. I stated the same to the Show Committee when they inquired about it. That's why I put the word "allegedly" in my statement. Perhaps you need to slow down and re-read things before you respond. It is interesting that you never bothered to contest the allegation with UKC.
As for your advice, I will take it for what it's worth. I never said you had a kennel. "She does NOT know my kennel; has never even been to my home, although I have been to hers." In proper grammatical usage, the "hers" refers to you home, which I have been to. I also made no comment about your home other than that I had been there.
I am also happy to know that you are so familiar with my dog's bloodlines that even though you are not a breeder ( I guess if you only provide the stud service it means you aren't a breeder) that you know how my dogs will mature. In the future would you be so kind as to have a look at my dogs when they are 6-7 mos old and evaluate them so I don't have to keep them until they are two-four years old? Some lines mature slower than others. I have watched his parents change and mature over the last 5 years. I have watched siblings of his parents and their offspring grow and mature. I think I have a better idea of what changes should occur than you do so I'll wait a while before I condemn him.
There is no need for profanity. A point of view is always better accepted when it is left out of the discussion.
As far as working, my definition of a working dog is not as narrow as yours appears to be that only includes Schutzhund or police work. I consider herding, Therapy, and many other OCCUPATIONS as work.
No I did not see the events leading up to you being asked to remove your dog from the show grounds. I stated the same to the Show Committee when they inquired about it. That's why I put the word "allegedly" in my statement. Perhaps you need to slow down and re-read things before you respond. It is interesting that you never bothered to contest the allegation with UKC.
As for your advice, I will take it for what it's worth. I never said you had a kennel. "She does NOT know my kennel; has never even been to my home, although I have been to hers." In proper grammatical usage, the "hers" refers to you home, which I have been to. I also made no comment about your home other than that I had been there.
I am also happy to know that you are so familiar with my dog's bloodlines that even though you are not a breeder ( I guess if you only provide the stud service it means you aren't a breeder) that you know how my dogs will mature. In the future would you be so kind as to have a look at my dogs when they are 6-7 mos old and evaluate them so I don't have to keep them until they are two-four years old? Some lines mature slower than others. I have watched his parents change and mature over the last 5 years. I have watched siblings of his parents and their offspring grow and mature. I think I have a better idea of what changes should occur than you do so I'll wait a while before I condemn him.
There is no need for profanity. A point of view is always better accepted when it is left out of the discussion.
by loujuangsd on 12 May 2010 - 20:05
Yes, I called you when I lost almost an entire litter this spring to what was then thought to be Parvo, but you need to get your hearing checked. As I said before I have never had 3 litters in one year much less 3 litters at once!
As far as working, my definition of a working dog is not as narrow as yours appears to be that only includes Schutzhund or police work. I consider herding, Therapy, and many other OCCUPATIONS as work.
No I did not see the events leading up to you being asked to remove your dog from the show grounds. I stated the same to the Show Committee when they inquired about it. That's why I put the word "allegedly" in my statement. Perhaps you need to slow down and re-read things before you respond. It is interesting that you never bothered to contest the allegation with UKC.
As for your advice, I will take it for what it's worth. I never said you had a kennel. "She does NOT know my kennel; has never even been to my home, although I have been to hers." In proper grammatical usage, the "hers" refers to you home, which I have been to. I also made no comment about your home other than that I had been there.
I am also happy to know that you are so familiar with my dog's bloodlines that even though you are not a breeder ( I guess if you only provide the stud service it means you aren't a breeder) that you know how my dogs will mature. In the future would you be so kind as to have a look at my dogs when they are 6-7 mos old and evaluate them so I don't have to keep them until they are two-four years old? Some lines mature slower than others. I have watched his parents change and mature over the last 5 years. I have watched siblings of his parents and their offspring grow and mature. I think I have a better idea of what changes should occur than you do so I'll wait a while before I condemn him.
There is no need for profanity. A point of view is always better accepted when it is left out of the discussion.
As far as working, my definition of a working dog is not as narrow as yours appears to be that only includes Schutzhund or police work. I consider herding, Therapy, and many other OCCUPATIONS as work.
No I did not see the events leading up to you being asked to remove your dog from the show grounds. I stated the same to the Show Committee when they inquired about it. That's why I put the word "allegedly" in my statement. Perhaps you need to slow down and re-read things before you respond. It is interesting that you never bothered to contest the allegation with UKC.
As for your advice, I will take it for what it's worth. I never said you had a kennel. "She does NOT know my kennel; has never even been to my home, although I have been to hers." In proper grammatical usage, the "hers" refers to you home, which I have been to. I also made no comment about your home other than that I had been there.
I am also happy to know that you are so familiar with my dog's bloodlines that even though you are not a breeder ( I guess if you only provide the stud service it means you aren't a breeder) that you know how my dogs will mature. In the future would you be so kind as to have a look at my dogs when they are 6-7 mos old and evaluate them so I don't have to keep them until they are two-four years old? Some lines mature slower than others. I have watched his parents change and mature over the last 5 years. I have watched siblings of his parents and their offspring grow and mature. I think I have a better idea of what changes should occur than you do so I'll wait a while before I condemn him.
There is no need for profanity. A point of view is always better accepted when it is left out of the discussion.
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