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Bob, some people want prey monsters. I prefer dogs that aren't going to bite my ankles bloody at 2 AM when I need to go to the washroom.

So do most people.

I don't want to speak for Bob, he is doing fine by his-self, but what I don't get is why people take a breed known for one trait, such as strong prey drive and want to dumb it down?  There are PLENTY of breeds out there that would fit your bill, without altering the GSD breed. Why not get a Grt Pyr? Or a coated collie? Or a malamute? These are all breeds that probably wouldn't nip you either as pups. No disrespect intended, just wondering because so many people try and do this.  You see it in the pit bull breed right now.  That breed can no longer legally do what it was bred for except in very specific cases if hog or cattle control, but there is no need to "dumb down" the breed as is done by the "American bully" folks.  So,  I'm just curiousas the Shiloh shep seems to me to be the "American Bully" of the Shep world.  Thanks in advance for your reply.

The Shiloh is a seperate breed, not a "dumbed down" GSD or anything else.  Can we please just let the Shiloh people enjoy their dogs like anyone else is allowed to do on this board?  Please?  

We don't jump up and foam at the mouth anytime someone says something positive about their Malinois or their Pit Bull, or says why they prefer their breed, so can we please at least afford the same courtesy to the Shiloh people?

I used to be one of the worst offenders, then I grew up. 

Oh, sorry. It was my understanding that the Shiloh was produced from the GSD, for the purpose of giving a dog "like" the GSD, but without the drives, etc.  That pretty much meets the criteria of "dumbed down" to me.  My question to a Shiloh owner is simply why CHANGE a breed and not find a breed which already meets what they want in a dog? With over 400 purebreeds out there, I would just think it would be easier to locate a purebred dog than to try and create a "whole new breed". 

Hopefully a Shiloh owner can anwser, as  I am curious. Just because it is not what I would do, doesn't mean it shouldn't be done.  However, I DO respect breed standards - something I wish more breeders did as well.     

I have had more cuts and scars put on me by my Pups than Mike Tyson could have inflicted, and to me it is a part of the working Pups Charm, They are some feisty little Buggers and i love to see it in them
My latest Pup Gina is a right little Snapper if you do not move quick enough,  but she will settle down just as Izzy did She was a right little tearaway
I love the Fire in there little bellies they are fearless little devils
Steve1

Well, you're certainly defensive!

This is a board where people (should be able to) express opinions about different subjects without getting their panties in a knot.  Obviously you are having an "issue" with me, fine, but unless you own a Shiloh, perhaps you will let them reply. 

Yes, I have strong feelings about "dumbing down breeds".  And, I hope to find a reasonably stable, reasonably intelligent person who perhaps feels strongly about what they have done with Shilohs, who will say to me "Hey, I'm SAVING the GSD breed from being vicious twits"!    

Its called having an adult discussion.

Try it sometime!  ; ) 

Let me be less abrupt:

I don't have a problem with you, but perhaps you are unaware of the history of Shiloh discussions on this message board.   Every time someone brings up a Shiloh Shepherd the same old argument breaks out.  I am not passing judgment because I used to be one of the worst. 

Sunsilver deserves to bring up her dogs and start threads without being harassed by  people.  You have to admit that asking someone about their breed but including "dumbed down" in the description isn't exactly nice!   

Here are some of the multiple Shiloh threads:

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/bulletins_read/288270.html?pagen=1#288565

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/bulletins_read/38861.html?pagen=3#245457

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/bulletins_read/384559.html?pagen=3#384758

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/bulletins_read/109250.html?pagen=6#110955

There are a lot more if you do a search you will see what I mean.

Yeah, so I should come back and defend the shiloh and create another crap thread like the ones Sue has linked to?

Should I tell you for the hundreth time that Tina Barber created the Shiloh because the American line dogs were becoming such shitters, and she wanted a dog that looked more like the old style GSD, a sound dog with good hips, a straight back, and sound temperment? And above all, a dog that was FAMILY FRIENDLY, but still able to protect its home?

Go read the threads for yourself. I am done here. And I am not posting pictures of my Shiloh so you lot can rip her apart!!

P.S.: Steve, that's great that you love your dog and appreciate her for what she is. I have nothing against working line dogs, and actually prefer them to the show line GSDs. Maybe someday I will buy a working line pup, and then I will expect to get my toes nipped if I have to get up at 4 am!

Sunsilver I am honestly sorry for all the crap I have given you in the past about Shilohs.  You are a valuable member of this board.  I sincerely hope you don't go.............even if we NEVER agree about raw feeding!!!