That @#$*ING DOES IT!!! - Page 3

Bump for Jims post above.

I haven't seen ANYONE defend DDR on this Forum.   The fact is that Some -- not ALL Posters -- cursed her and repeatedly posted absolutely stupid remarks to the point of making themselves look ridiculous.   The fact that she has not been banned does say a lot about this Forum -- that is, the woman served her sentence for her wrongs and should be allowed to post.    As I have said previously, I do not believe that it was a harsh enough sentence.   

You that repeatedly post to, and about, her are actually ensuring that she will continue to post.    You are only hurting yourselves with your own behavior.   Stop acting like vigilantes.   Nuff said about it.

Bazza -- you aren't witty....yeah, lyfao.   You live for this "stuff"  -- Vigilante Justice....think about it.

 Ugh, this agreeing with Jim thing really has to stop, LOL. He's absolutely right- the fact that she has not been banned DOES speak volumes for what this site is about. Yuck. 

Excellent idea to post the link to her abuse case every time she posts. I was busy the day before yesterday for most of the day, but I was told that she started a bunch of threads directed at me or w/comments to try to goad me and provoke me into arguing with her....well, they were deleted before I saw any of them. Crying shame. LOL. Ironic she's trying to provoke me now- really, if she hadn't flipped out on me via email and turned nuttier than a shithouse rat, I never would've bothered googling her name, and I never would've known about her. If I'd never known about who she is, I never would've posted what I did in the "There are just way too many" thread. So, by any way you look at it, she did it all HERSELF, and I have no pity for animal abusers. I do have some for the mentally ill, but not when they victimize innocents. Jim's pedophile analogy was right on. I, too, was appalled at the couple posters who were not as appalled as the rest of us. Certainly does change your opinion of them.

Anyway....when I heard that she was throwing my name around in her rants, I thought she must really be getting desperate for attention to keep stirring the pot the way she is. So, if that's what she wants, and she wants it badly enough to post to particular people in hopes of pissing them off badly enough to get to her level, then Jim's solution is absolutely PERFECT. No words, simply a link to Petabuse.com. 

Brilliant, Jim. 

The link and the ad above are what I suggested and wrote earlier this week and others  posted on my behalf. I do suggest that every time she posts, someone simply post the message above, as those above have now suggested. In the meantime, we all need a break from this issue and that will allow us all to rest and get back to other kinds of discussions. Post the exact same link to any forum where this abuse/neglect incident or others is discussed. I think Jim will continue to post, and so will others here who have been upset by the posts. I know personally that this entire situation has made me livid and raised my blood pressure too high on occasion and I now have that under control. I have waited to make this post until I saw the right time.

The bottom line is that the literature suggests that there is nearly 100% recidivism in such cases, and specifically where there is exploitative behavior besides. I strongly suggest that everyone here educate yourself and  READ the articles "PsychT" posted. Maybe she will post the link again and if not, I have it. We all need to read about these kinds of situations and realize that the justice system needs help to see that laws are written and enforced to minimize this kind of behavior. The system failed with Bartmess.  I suspect in time the system will have a second chance and hopefully will get it right to require treatment and long term monitoring and keeping her away from animals (and possibly humans such as elderly who would also be at risk). 

What is notable here, and what Jim and others have pointed out, is that there are a few who have, in fact, de facto, defended this person on this forum. Like other people whose actions and posts are indefensible, they run to the rescue and post BS. They know who they are, and so do many others now who have seen their true lack of ethics or courage. In society, people like this are part of the problem. They are the kind of people who can always find an excuse for not only their behavior, but this kind of behavior. They are the kind of person whose words concerning recent such crimes ring hollow.  But they feel the need to post something so we all think they are "nice or sweet" people. They are neither sweet nor nice, just spineless. They contribute nothing to this forum ever.  They lack any moral fortitude to tell it like it is even when someone shows them facts of a conviction. They are not outraged and if the rest of us are, they begin to defend the perpetrator. This is exactly why society ends up with "slaps on the wrist" type sentences being imposed for crimes that will end up being repeated. There is ambiguity in society, people who lack fortitude, and this shows up in our legal system. There is and will NEVER be any excuse for what I observed first hand with a dog so covered in feces and urine it was difficult to even clean it up. Treatment, monitoring as in sex offender programs, and prohibition against owning animals ever again are what are necessary to help prevent repeats of their behavior. Everyone knows that treatment cannot even begin until someone is able to acknowledge a problem exists.

Finally, there are those who will use such situations for their own benefit, regardless of the crime. If some of the people who frequent this forum or elsewhere think they can get something out of the situation for themselves, they will. In this case, some think they can get semen from Bartmess, or dogs for breeding, so they will befriend her and take whatever they can get. Anyone who associates with people like this deserves also to be held accountable. They don't give a damn about the crime, nor do they really give a damn about the dogs, just as Bartmess did and does not care. The hollow promotion of "preserving the old DDR bloodlines" is bullshit. It is about money for such people, or in some cases about their sickness. What it

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What it clearly is not about are the dogs.

Nuff said wow I keep seeing that from another poster here, they must be one and the same.

I thought Jim's post was stupid -- very disturbing "thinking" from a Police Officer, especially the analogy of rapists and pedophiles -- it was absurd.    Some of you guys/gals think that EVERYONE should RANT as you do about it.  Jenni -- don't be manipulated by her -- if you keep answering her, she has you "hooked."    Just move on ..........we ALL know what she did to her dogs, and it isn't condoned by ANYONE on this Forum.   Just because some Posters haven't "ranted" and "cursed" her does not mean that what she did is condoned.

 

Just like you you dumb bitch, get over yourself you freak.