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by VonIsengard on 19 February 2011 - 05:02

Don, to own, or to breed, and if to breed, for what purpose?

I personally like dogs with an edge, but I think to consistently produce dogs with an edge on purpose is a slippery slope if you know full well you sell most of your dogs to companion homes. Now, if you sell your dogs to sport/LE homes that's a different story.

It also depends on how you train. Different decoys and different training styles can bring out and strengthen the desired drive, be it prey or defense.

And answer is simple= the one you want.

by Bundishep on 19 February 2011 - 06:02

Good answer KC( the one you want) everyone has their own taste in temperment.What I might highly value as a breeder other breeders may have no use for.

by ziegenfarm on 19 February 2011 - 06:02

definately #2
pjp

by Dawulf on 19 February 2011 - 06:02

Are they the purple ones everyone was talking about on another thread?

Personally I would pick the second. I want a dog that I can take with me anywhere, but that I can trust that he'd protect me if something funny would happen. I live in the city, and don't want a dog that I'd have to keep a muzzle on constantly. I also have a cat, and the higher prey drive would probably not go well with her. My thinking is - I want a dog that I can compete with, but I also want a dog.

by Don Corleone on 19 February 2011 - 13:02

Bundishep, that is th point. I'm asking what YOU would pick and I want to know what venue.

by Elkoorr on 19 February 2011 - 15:02

Would pick #1 for schutzhund or LE.....depending somewhat on the age. A dog with a natural higher prey drive is easier motivated for a job. Civil/defense can be brought in through pressure in training and in can intensify while maturing. This dog can be easier "brought back" through prey if pressure and stress got to high.

#2 needs to be evaluated closer. Still would be a good pick, but needs experienced handler and good decoy. Mistakes in training are not as easily forgiven. Can still be a good SCHH prospect, patrol dog or PPD for property.

by crhuerta on 19 February 2011 - 15:02

Don.....I'm greedy....I want them BOTH.

by SportySchGuy on 19 February 2011 - 15:02

Level of drive is difficult to determine. What is your high drive may be my med drive etc. I would go with #2 I suppose but I could care less about food drive. I would want what I call "normal" prey drive but again that is my subjective view of drive level. Civil is a silly term as well. If they are too focused on equipment then that is a training problem although genetically influenced. Sharp I can agree on probably. Still it is another subjective term based on the experience of the person evaluating the dog. So......#2 strictly by your definitions as I intrepret them.

Forgot to state use of dog which would be personal protection/pet/buddy.

by Don Corleone on 19 February 2011 - 15:02

Yes, the ideal dog would be a nice combo of both, but let's just say you bought a pup and if it grew into one the two, which would you prefer for your stated venue?

by starrchar on 19 February 2011 - 16:02

Since there is no wrong answer, I'd prefer #1 dog. IF I was still involved in Schutzhund, I would prefer a dog that is a lot of fun and versatile, a dog that is a great family dog, yet a fun sport dog. I like to have a dog that I can enjoy in ways other than being involved in the sport of Schutzhund. I had sharp, civil GSD once and in my particular case I always had to be "on guard"- no fun. But, of course that is only my opinion and at this point in my life, I have a laid back rescue GSD that is a VERY poor example of a GSD, yet makes a wonderful therapy dog. So my opinion probably isn't worth much...but you asked :)

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