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by gsdshow on 25 May 2010 - 14:05
What would you rather feed, Orijen or Acana and why other than the protein levels. I need to find an adult food to switch my girl to and I just can't make up my mind. I have read so many things now I am confused, (Not so hard to do with me, haha). You all are such a great help.
by Scarlet Akai on 25 May 2010 - 15:05
Swimming to me seems like the best excercise for a puppy outside of their normal puppy hyperness. ( Mine used to do hi speed laps around the livingroom if we were late on her walk which would escalate to her coming to get us and escorting us to the door)
On that note what do yall consider over excercise? How do you dictate how long a play/training session should be for your pup? And what about puppies on slick surfaces? I always cringe a little when I see a young pup on linoleum or hardwood and their little paws slip everywhere they go. I don't think they should really be on low traction surfaces for too long at any point of their life but can't this be especially damaging for really young ones whose bones are still quite soft?
p.s Great thread!
by VomMarischal on 25 May 2010 - 15:05
by VomMarischal on 25 May 2010 - 15:05
by Bhaugh on 25 May 2010 - 16:05
Nothing was mentioned as to the source (s) of protein. I say this because Ive raised pups on raw and they grew half as fast as pups on bagged food. Meat protein is different than grain protein but unfortunately its rarely separeted when discussing diets. Most dog food companies take into account protein from "all sources" when providing the minimum and maximum on labels.
Ive then changed the pups that I fed raw (because the buyer didnt feed raw) to kibble and the pups took off in growth.
Im sorry to hear about your dog. It seems that you did everything you could to prevent this. I would keep the dog lean at this point and keep exercising. Exercise will help to maintain muscle mass and help to support the hips. Scarlet recommended swimming which is a great way to build muscle. If you have a treadmill, this works well too (less stress on joints). Vit C to help build synovial fluid in the joints, and enzymes.
by Scarlet Akai on 25 May 2010 - 16:05
How much protein is usually in high protein dog foods?
I know that people don't usually (nor should they) just feed their dogs poultry breast which would account for a butt load of variety per feeder, but for those who are pretty consistent on feeding their dogs nothing but 80%meat 10%bone and organ the protein load would still average out to roughly 7g per ounce.....
Well I obviously have a bit more to learn on the subject
...........by missyfly96 on 25 May 2010 - 17:05
by Kathyo on 25 May 2010 - 17:05
Here is an article that helps explain the calcium issues amoung others.
http://www.lgd.org/library/Optimal%20feeding%20of%20large%20breed%20puppies.pdf
by steve1 on 25 May 2010 - 17:05
Liken it with a Seed you grow in the Greenhouse or conservatory in say this time of the year, For instance i grew my Runner bean seeds in Pots in the conservatory, keep them watered and they came up twice as fast as they would had i grown them in the bedding place because of the watering and heat coming in BUT, what happens if you leave them in the Conservatory too long is that they become Leggy and not so good Colour meaning weakened, So as soon as i saw this happening i put them off the ground covered with Wire , within one day the colour changed to a deeper green and the plants slowed a little in growth, Some Days have passed since then, Yesterday i planted them into the Bed with the Sticks they look strong and healthy
So this is the way i look at calcium in excess, it causes the bones to grow too fast so you do not get the Quality or strength you should get,, much like the plants i described above, However these thoughts are entirely mine i do not have any evidence to say they are correct , but they have stood me in good stead for a long time with the Dogs Joints or perhaps i have just been lucky
Steve1
by gouda on 26 May 2010 - 00:05
Hi Steve
According to every reply hear i"m getting away with murder.
My pups recieve a high protein,and calcium diet,{32% protein,2.1% calcium.
They are allowed to try and climb stairs ,A- frames,or what ever they believe they can accomplish.
Check my website,and see a 10 week old pup over the A- frame,www.goodshepherd kennels .com
Have had great success with the hips and elbows in my breedings.
Have a large puppy run with a stairs that goes up to my deck, I usually keep the first pup that makes it to the deck on its own.
The first one usually makes it at the age of 6 weeks. The run also includes a sandy clay type of area,where my pups play and dig holes for hours at a time {that must be hard on hips and elbows.
p.s. Steve I was born in Workum Freeseland, in the Netherlands In 1943. Come to Canada in 1952.
I cant talk Dutch,or remember much about Holland. How far do you live from there?
gouda
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