Realistic time frame for titling a dog - Page 5

o there definately is one in USA that never trailed, but its not on me to name names and hurt peoples feelings and business

in my business, we dont give a shit about fame, points, pedigrees etc, the dog has to be up for the job, period, in my private breeding I also dont care for fame/points, I select what I want/need

furthermore some of the better producing dogs now in the USA were never high scoring dogs, but produced good and bred many females anyway before shipped, some win big and dont breed and/or produce anything worth mentioning

I'm glad my point gets proven more and more with each post..."can't say this" "won't say that"...yeah...it will affect your livelihood to share that kind of information. Can't put yourself out there as someone that tells the truth and informs the uninformed. Need to just go with the status quo and protect the system at all costs.

I'm glad you have a dog in mind, I've gone through the "major" studs of the United States and can't think of a single one that doesn't have an IPO3 with video to back it.

But be cryptic...it will make some of the people on here think you're definitely the one to believe and run around speaking of this secret dog that never trialed but was bred to tons of times.

Still not sure what you're looking at when you're talking about the bigger producers of the US...they were all shown at pretty high trials and got respectable scores at those trials. World beaters? Just the one. But the rest were still pretty successful as well.

Best producers that you won't name probably means they're owned by your friends or clients, more than likely they were imported by you, had 2-3 litters and aren't nerve bags, but mediocre dogs in which maybe 1-2 puppies went to sport homes, maybe one somehow made it into a police department. But keep it a secret. Just speak in abstract as if they're the greatest dogs in America and are producing amazing dogs that no one has ever heard of.

Ok, I will respond to you one more time because ALL you write in last post is incorrect
first of all I said the dog didnot trail at high level, you change it into not having IPO3, I didnot say that

and how would me naming someone elses dog here affect my livelyhood, total nonsense

the good producers I talk of , only one was sold by me, looking at around 50 plus breedings each and no podiumdogs at national level

I will not mention other peoples dogs for good or bad to set examples nor to please you, sorry, you are not even mentioning your name or ANY acomplishment so to that extent you are as good as any next troll.

have a good one

Lol you're a joke...look above at your post buddy...

"o there definately is one in USA that never trailed"

I guess it was in your head that you meant "never trialed at a higher level"

I love the internet, what you write, is always there. Don't worry though...you've got enough sheep on here to back you up though. I'm sure they'll all read "o there definately is one in the USA that never trailed at a higher level" instead of what's actually written. They're the same people that think that claiming to have sold some great producers, and just mentioning that you've produced good dogs, and just naming accomplishments without providing any information in order for others to be able to prove that the informaiton is true. What's the difference if I never state my accomplishments? Do you just want to hear abstract accomplishments so that it makes you feel better about the information I'm sharing?

But nah...just revert to name calling...anyone with half a brain knows what that means.

I believe some good producers have never trialled high, I also bet that same dog only got a chance in the first place because its daddy or granddaddy close up was a internationally recognised high sport dog.

Anyone can produce good unregistered or untitled dogs if they hitch a ride on high proven lines up close. Where do you go with it next gen down, well of course you dip back into the high titled dogs to boost up your credibility.

BW, I apologize if you didn't understand I was talking about a particular dog that had doubt cast upon him by Mithuna, for no reason I can see. Not sure what there is to gain this late in the game, ie, dead dog, dead owner...but Mithuna started this thread to discuss whether the titles were legit.

We were talking on parallel planes it seems, you being unaware the thread was started to incite trouble. I will explain.

Yes, I understand where a general feeling of skepticism about quickie titles for export purposes could come into play given few details, however, if one has the details, it really makes perfect sense in the case behind this thread. Even in retirement from the dog "business" so to speak, someone who has spent their whole life handling high-caliber dogs is going to want to keep a certain kind of dog. When you've competed (and won) big trials, you're not going to put your feet up and get yourself a Basset Hound, necessarily, just because you're getting on in years. Why didn't he campaign him/breed him? Because he was tired of people, tired of trialing, tired of sport politics, tired of being in pain (chronic pain, for years) and just wanted to enjoy his dog on a personal level. "Been there, done that" I guess, applies here.

Anyone who called him and caught him in a bad mood in the 5 years up until he passed away can attest to the fact that he was tired of people. LOL. The dog was kept as a 24/7 companion, accompanying him wherever he went until he passed away. I suggested, after his death, that his wife campaign the dog a bit and breed him (she was also a national level handler), for something to do, but unfortunately, the dog became ill after losing his handler and had to be neutered. I offered to go get the dog and bring him home after his wife passed away, but their kennel manager wanted to keep him. So, no, I do not own him. Nor do I have any dogs for breeding that are related to him. I truly have no dog in this fight, so to speak, except to defend the reputation of a well-respected guy and very good friend from an Internet pot-stirrer such as Mithuna.

Peace.

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Is he dead??? Last I talked to the gal caring for him, he was still alive. Have you heard more, recently?