Line breeding on females? - Page 3

A reason that one will see more line breedings on males than females is that certain males have been frequently bred to in past, for example some males have over 300 progeny and a female might have 0 to 30 or so pups over the course of her lifetime so in other words just by the odds of the numbers out there linebred males tend to show up more than linebred females do,but any smart breeder is going to work a top producing female into the breeding program if they feel a better chance of improving the breed, I have a line breeding on Ina vom Haus Gard which was a female that produced Nick vom Heiligenbosh, the litter will have a solid linebreeding on a female and a strong male line both at the same time,so in my view one should look at the entire linebreeding make-up do not just focus on the female line or male line but both at the same time.

Bundi - would you illustrate your female line-bred litter with a link please?

To sumerize the linebreeding it has a 5-5 on Ina vom Haus Gard a female, it also has a 5-5 linebreeding on Half vom Ruhbachtal a male,I know not everyone is a fan of linebreeding some like to outcross as much as they can and some like to to see even a closer linebreeding like 3-3, all types can have much sucess,but can come with added risk in magnifing any bad inherited traits or health issues,I dont see working dogs having a hugh risk of bottlenecking the genes because there are so many nice working dogs to choose from both male and female.

I think one of the best females old school females to be linebred on is Afra vom Stoppenberger Land she was the key foundation dam of the Karthago kennel.She produced Fado and other super strong working dogs to come out of her down the line.

To illustrate in further detail exceptional line bred dogs and importance of Sire and Dam genes at the same time lets go back in history to Fado von Karthago he was the son of Afra but his Sire Harro aus der Lechrainstadt was a great producer in his own right and so any linebreeding you find on Harro is also highly desired in a ped.. and again lets come back to see just how strong Fado von Karthago was as a top producer. Well known dog names that came out of him were....... Connie vom Kornerplatz......Gesha von Machiavelli....Dixi vom Hause Santiages.....Natz vom Tegelhous and thats is not anywhere near a compete list. It shows the power of linebreeding and what can come out of it.

I had a dog 3-2 on Harro, he went on to become a police dog then his handler moved to Australia ( and took the dog).

A female that comes to mind from years ago, and one that I used to hear people talking about is Umsa Bungalow.

I really like the breeding behind Ina - what did the line-breeding on her, the one you mentioned, produce?

Personnel opinion:

The line breeding on Females has more effect on the litter then the male. Yes males have the ability to produce larger #,s of offspring because of there ability to breed on a daily basis. Females carry a larger sway over temperament and extension of genetics. JMHO

females overall prob more important than male in what it brings to the litter, I think its great any breeder would focus on trying to line-breed on a super producing female,but still my whole point being don't forget the boys or the girls,there is no perfect dog even the great ones have faults somewhere,when a pair is paired up each sex should be strong in were the other sex could be weaker in a temperament or health area.

Umsa vom Bungalow was mentioned, she was also a very important key female back in the 1970,s its common place today to find her or the Afra female at least showing up once in the pedigrees of some of the top working dogs of today,Umsa was a powerhouse producer. I don't think the litter I have line- bred on( the Ina female ) is in the same bracket as those two females, but I think she is still very nice female to have a line-breeding on, the pups are still very young so ask me in 2 more months on how they ended up, one never knows with pups,I,ve seen awesome peds where you think they would produce extremely nice only to end up producing poorly or perhaps average.