Jiri Jinopo Kennels- Importing a Jipo Me German Shepherd Pup - Page 2

Thank you everyone for your input and suggestions. I guess I should have included more information. It is nearly impossible to relay to you everything I want in a pup. I am experienced in training working dogs and am searching for a female who will excel in schutzhund/ipo but only as a means of proving REAL working ability. I want a puppy that I can train myself to an IPO 3 fairly quickly and perhaps move onto other sports/challenges as well. Looking to produce Police K9s, High Level Personal Protection Dogs, and other working dogs as well as high level sport dogs. I want a dog who can live peacefully as an indoor pet in an active home while still having above average working ability. A versatile GSD with good nerves, a clear head, and a friendly but protective demeanor. I want as close to this description as possible.

When I say that I love the dogs that Jiri is producing, it is only in relation to their conformation and coloring as well as the video he provides since I have never seen them in person. I specifically got caught up on Lea Jerkova Dvora at Jinopo Kennels. I have not come across a female who was as strong looking as her. Loved the look, liked the work. But like I said, I am just fishing and I really appreciate any direction anyone can give me! I do not intend to jump into anything until I have found the right pup.

I have looked at Alpine K9 and I have not seen anything I couldn't live without... but I may give him a call and see what he has to say.

I am really leaning away from importing after all of the input I have gotten. If I do end up deciding to import it will be through a trusted friend who has dealt with Jiri before and who knows the dogs.

Thanks Everyone. Please continue to give your input and advice. It is greatly appreciated.

"am searching for a female who will excel in schutzhund/ipo but only as a means of proving REAL working ability. I want a puppy that I can train myself to an IPO 3 fairly quickly and perhaps move onto other sports/challenges as well. Looking to produce Police K9s, High Level Personal Protection Dogs, and other working dogs as well as high level sport dogs. I want a dog who can live peacefully as an indoor pet in an active home while still having above average working ability. A versatile GSD with good nerves, a clear head, and a friendly but protective demeanor. I want as close to this description as possible."

 

when you find such dogs i will take as many as you got and so will evryone else on the planet, no exageration, you are guaranteed a permanent, vast and unlimited market at premium price for these dogs you describe

To the OP, your wish list sounds great--so what happens if this perfect puppy you select should develop hip dysplasia, or a pancreatic insufficiency, things which ANY GSD puppy is at risk of developing and which are generally not going to be detectable until the animal is at least 12 months of age?

Seeking a foundation bitch, and finding that in a puppy, is nearly always more of a surprise than any sort of science, regardless of country of origin. You'll increase your odds of doing so, however, if in addition to selecting from a kennel with a history of successfully producing foundation bitches for other breeders, you also set your sights on a young adult whose soundness can at least be assured pre-purchase instead of a puppy.

Best of luck in your search, whatever you eventually decide upon.

 

"will excel in schutzhund/ipo but only as a means of proving REAL working ability. I want a puppy that I can train myself to an IPO 3 fairly quickly and perhaps move onto other sports/challenges as well. Looking to produce Police K9s, High Level Personal Protection Dogs, and other working dogs as well as high level sport dogs. I want a dog who can live peacefully as an indoor pet in an active home while still having above average working ability. A versatile GSD with good nerves, a clear head, and a friendly but protective demeanor. I want as close to this description as possible."

I am fortunate to have enjoyed all these qualities in my dog; just in a male not a female.  

Good luck in your search.

Yeah, RLHAR, I don't really see the big deal about the description, etiher. I wouldn't keep one that didn't have those traits. 

Alpine and Jinopo have the same dogs, really....one just has better photographs. Lea is pretty, always liked her look, but I wouldn't say I've never seen (or had) females who were that strong. Again, quality photos count for a lot. I would call Hans at Alpine and tell him what you want and see which dogs he steers you toward, whether they be living with him or with Jiri. 

I have a male right now who fits my description so far. He has an amazing temperament, nothing phases him. Confident but kind, not erogant. steady drives, firm grips, and good focus and engagement (with limited training). Of course he is only 7 months old so we will see how the rest turns out. :-)

I know investing in a puppy is not the ideal way to start a breeding program. I am not counting on it... just hoping for it. If the female does not turn out to be what I wanted then I will deal with that from there. This is why I intend to be picky. I need a breeder who will be honest enough to say that a litter does not contain the type of pup I am looking for and will only sell me a puppy who has the highest potential. A breeder who knows their dogs can do this. This is what I am hoping for!

I am representative of our JINOPO dogs from Czech here ion USA. I'll take care of the help with selection, shipping arrangements , warranty or any questions you may have as the pup matures and needs training.  I also would provide you with the AlpineK9 manual which would answer most questions you may have. Prices are same if you in USA go through me or JINOPO. I also provide discounts on training and products like videos and equipment and subsequent purchases and military or LEO or S&R or handicapped people  discounts,... which JINOPO does not provide.  hexe asked what will happen if the dog develops genetic problem. If you go through me   I make sure that you get replacement. please read my warranty on AlpineK9.com. If you go through JINOPO then they will guarantee the dogs as well but you need to deal with them and in worse case scenario you may be required to ship the pup (if necessary) to Europe.Where I am here in Arizona USA and I take care of you here in USA. 

 Hans

 

 

I can't say enough good things about Hans. He has always helped me and answered any questions I have. Never tries to sell me anything. He never gets annoyed at my questions and trust me I have a bunch of them. I have asked him about several dogs over the years and he's always willing to give me his honest opinion. I personally was going to get a Jago pup and I spoke to Hans about her last month. She's a little out of my price range so I'll just wait. Hans understands this and doesn't rush people into just buying any dog. Tell him what you want and be specific. Then all you have to do is send the money. Hell arrange all shipping and all you do is pick up at your airport. You can't go wrong with using Hans at Jinopo. I love there dogs and trust Hans more than most other people.

To be clear, Hans, I wasn't questioning what the breeder would do if the puppy should develop an issue that eliminates her from being a breeding candidate--my intent was to ensure that the OP had given sufficient consideration to their plans for her should that circumstance come to pass. Let's face it--most residential areas in the US have some sort of limitation on the number of dogs a person can keep at their home, so a pup obtained with her breeding potential as the primary reason for purchase that turns out to not be suited for that career may become 'excess inventory'...and the person who will return a puppy they've raised to make room for a replacement is the exception, not the rule. Good, SMART and lifetime homes for drivey, active young adult GSDs are not all that easily secured, either. Likewise, the breed rescues and shelters do not need any additional GSDs who are obviously well-bred working line dogs added to THEIR inventories in need of placements, or being euthanized in high-intake volume shelters because resources are already overburdened. Not saying this is who the OP is, as I don't know them--I think the best of people until they show me differently, but I see no harm in making sure the worst-case scenarios have been considered as well as the best ones, either.