Would you like to have a puppy out of this female????Zwinger schwarze Seeperle!! - Page 2

Hi !

If that female would belong to me she would have a great life as a family dog and coach patatoe.And would not beeing used to just produce puppies!!!!

The video is being published from the owner of the female  Paul Zimmermann  right after the breedsurvey.He blamend the helper for the desaster and said the helper was unfair.
After a lot of opinions from real GSD knowers telling him that it happened because of quality issues of the female he took the video of and since that he is hiding it so nobody can see it.
Of course he figured out that he won´t sell any pup to anybody who see´s the tape.

He is not telling the truth to the puppy buyers just to get them sold and make money .
He takes 1000,- euro for each puppies.

A lot of people are concerned about the breeder.

The Dog was not up to it and on that performance should never get it Korclassed, Would i buy a Pup from Her
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Steve1

Is the helper supposed to wrench a dog's spine like that as soon they are on the sleeve?  I've watched quite a few protection trainings and videos and I don't think I've seen a helper twist a dog's spine in over a  sharp 180 like that. 

She also cringed just at doing a right turn heeling, with her handler, never mind being afraid during the helper work.   How old is this dog in the video?

Heather

I watched the Alex video as well.  He's tucking his tail and very hesitant after his leash pops.  And they are not effective;  they do not get the dog back in the right position or get a faster response from him.   To me this looks like correcting a dog that has no flipping clue what the correction is for or what he's supposed to be being "reminded" to do correctly. 

Heather

You can have a pup from  SchH3 parents that when fully grown will not show enough drive to complete SchH1 and there will be pups that will be great in SchH3 even if their parents weren't. Watch how the pup you are looking at is with prey drive and hold on a tug toy, how the pup is interacting, is he/she shy or outgoing - I think those traits say more than any potential genetic dispostion.

Seems to be a well bred girl.  The video does not impress me into wanting to buy a pup from her at those (1k euro) prices.  IMPO, the handler seemed a bit tentative, not necessarily fearful.  Maybe new to the dog..  However, it all goes to show that the best laid plans can get waylaid in the execution.  I'd be more interested to see what her offspring (she's about 6 y.o.)  have done as she may produce better than she is.

Wow! This was truly a dissappointment and shows how a dog can be trained to bite but cannot be trained to have courage. I'm not trying to shoot down the dog as a dog.. maybe she has great character and a wonderful dog, but in my opinion does not have the nerves for protection.

I just looked briefly, but my quick thoughts were that I would not put that video on the internet if it were me... the training does not look finished or good.  The dogs fussing was poor, the out was bad, not a good bite, the aus-fuss was terrible, dog did not even come to position.  The dog seems to have too much nervous energy and a poor bite at this point in training when the video was taken.