Another epidosde with Pit Bull - Page 2

"They did not show a picture of the dog."

So how do we KNOW it was a pit bull? Who decided it was an American Pit Bull Terrier? It could have been any bully breed, hell, I've seen people mistake a boxer for a pit bull.

In nearly a decade of professionally training all breeds, particularly behavioral problems, my worst injury from a dog a who intended to hurt me was from a chocolate lab. Some of my nicer scars include a GSD, a mal, a boxer...

Some particularly dangerous dog I have opted to train with a muzzle who would have bitten me up if given the chance have included boxers, a rott/lab mix, a cheapeake bay retriever, an old english sheepdog, a few GSDs (including showlines, no less!), a golden, schnauzers, lhasa apsos, a BRT...the list just goes on and on like that. See a pattern? That's because there isn't one. Shall we ban them all?

Pit Bulls have a terrible reputation -- the dog of choice for the "gangsta" mentality.   Personally, I think they are UGLY, with weird-looking eyes.  I don't like any "relatives of" or "mixed breeds of" the Pit Bull.  JMO   

It was also the dog of choice as a best friend to a gaggle of "Little Rascals".  Too bad they've gotten the rep they have, they can actually be really good dogs in the right hands.  Any dog can be dangerous in the right situation, just depends on their "trigger".

Dodie, my issue with you, is the way you celebrated the thread you started. It's very obvious how you despise the APBT.

 Just another issue with pit bull. I wonder why all of a sudden this dog turned on the people he has known for year. I know people say any dog can turn, however you never hear of a GSD doing this.

A few years ago a GSD belonging to a man, killed his mother who was caring for the dog.  The thread was posted here, although I can't find it using the search function.  I'm certain some of the older members will remember it.

I have owned APBT's for over 40yrs.  I have owned hundreds of APBT's. I have seen thousands.  During this time, I have seen some vicious dogs who needed culled, or at least secured in a manner to prevent them from ever getting loose.
 These dogs are by far, the exception and not the rule.

To perpetuate some BS about the way an APBT's head is shaped causing instability in the breed, is just a complete Falsehood and Ridiculous. It's also the type of BS the media will get hold of and run with.

I have GSD's, therefore I don't  post, or search out every incident where a GSD attacks someone.  If I did, you might feel offended.

Good Morning Jenni!!  I admire your Gameness in defending the APBT. These days, it's an exercise in futility.

 Hi Abhay,

I remember the article about the GSD that killed that older woman.  In fact, I posted a link to the photo of that huge, intact, dominant dog SITTING ON TOP OF THAT DISABLED WOMAN'S LAP, to another forum I belong to.  Talk about letting the dog attain dominance over someone with no ability to stop that animal were it to go after her.

I'd bet money that pit bull, or whatever breed or mix it was, had shown signs it was dangerous before.  Of course, the signs would have been very clear to anyone with experience in reading dog behavior.

The media loves stories involving "pit bulls", because they cause a lot of attention.  "If it bleeds, it leads".  And, the term "pit bull" can mean almost any "short-haired, broad-headed dog" to those with no knowledge of dog breeds; or who want to ban breeds, instead of punishing those individuals who, by negligent ownership, endanger innocent people.

Pit Bulls have a terrible reputation -- the dog of choice for the "gangsta" mentality. Personally, I think they are UGLY, with weird-looking eyes. I don't like any "relatives of" or "mixed breeds of" the Pit Bull. JMO


This is my late Crowbar.  She was a pitbull x beagle.   She was a great dog, had her CGC, always went with my 2 boys and their friends exploring the fields and barns.   Had to put her down at 12 from complications of Lupus. 

These are the purebreds I had.  All very good dogs with people.  One was animal aggressive.

Darn pictures are too big.  Difficult to edit and delete here for me.

Weird, KCzaja, my worst injury was from a chocolate lab too...and my meanest dog was a black lab, although he went after everyone except me (still had to have him put down). 

Hey guess what? I have been doing voiceover for a new pit bull movie coming out. I'm learning a LOT about the breed, although I have had a few rescues and some friends with the dogs already, and all my experiences except one were good. The bad rescue I didn't even bother with...no reason to keep her alive and ruin the bully reputation even worse.

PS. "Crowbar" is about the coolest name I've heard all year!

I have met good and bad "pit bulls".  I have seen a number of pit mixes in the shelter labeled a lab mix, but it was very obvious what they were mixed with.

Personally, I don't care for the bully breeds, whether you're talking about a APBT, a Staffordshire Terrier, or any of the other dogs of that nature.  I also don't care for Boxers, Bull Mastiffs, Neopolitan Mastiffs, Cane Corsos, Presa Canarios, or any of those others.  I don't like bulldogs, whether you are talking the American, the French, or the English.  Does that mean that those are bad breeds?  No.  I have met wonderful examples of all of them. However, I think it is foolish for some people to have dogs, as they view them as furbabies and not dogs, and dogs view us as members of their pack, not as humans.

Either you are the leader, or you are the follower.  When a large or aggressive breed dog is placed in the care of a relative, they should be in a position to do something to control it, and if they are not, then they shouldn't be given the care of the dog.  I fully agree that there were warning signs...this dog likely didn't just snap with no warning.  But too many people read human emotions into what a dog does, and you can't do that...you aren't dealing with a human.  "Ah, isn't it cute that puppy just snapped at me when I tried to pick up his ball?  I guess he really loves it."  I shake my head.  We all know it has nothing to do with love.

Aside from that, it's a tragedy that this person was killed.  If there had only been a little more attention paid to the body language, to watching what the heck was going on...This and too many other tragedies just like it could have been avoided.

Crys

Dodie...you didn't even understand my reply!  Big surprise. Half of what you're bitching at me about was quite clearly directed at Lief anyway. She posted the picture of a dog running...still don't know what the point of that was, but I'll bet the post has been edited by now anyway.

You didn't just post an animal story, so drop that copout because it won't get you anywhere. I don't start shit, but if you think I'm going to sit back and allow utter morons to spew pure fallacies about something I know  and love, think again. If you had any hard facts or even knew a tiny bit of which you speak, I would have more patience. Just hope that someday, after people like you ban Pit Bulls, that they don't come for your GSDs next.

I read it quite carefully. I had to; a lot of it didn't make sense. I don't care WHO the dog was left with; it wasn't his handler. It doesn't matter if the humans think the dog knows them well enough or not. My GSDs don't behave the same for anyone else, and a RESPONSIBLE person with aggressive dogs knows this and takes measures to safely contain the animal or takes it with him, as I do, when I go on vacation. If I can't drive and bring the dogs who can't be left w/someone else, I don't go. It's not rocket science.

And it was Kool Aid, not milk and cookies, but again.................you didn't get it.

Don't group me in with the shit starters on this board; vehement defense of what's right and true, I'm guilty of. I have never, nor will I ever, simply set out to be cruel to someone undeserving. Quit crying and playing victim; YOU started this thread...for what purpose??? If it was a GSD I'll be you wouldn't have posted it on an international forum.

Abhay, I know it's a losing battle, but I can't help it. If even one misguided person reads these threads and gives my points a  split second thought, it's worth the continual repetition and agony. I failed my Korung for not outing, but I'm dead game. ;-)