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by Mystere on 04 March 2009 - 17:03
You have heard it before, probably ad nauseum, but it is the bottom-Line: TEMPERAMENT! That is what comes first, last and always for the WL. Without a good temperament, it does not matter how high the drives, how strong the dog, or even how trainable (and I personally think that trainability requires good temperament anyway). So, YES, a novice can handle a good working-line dog, high drives and all...IF the temperament is there, too. If the temperament is poor, it does not matter how many times the trainer has gone to the WUSV Championship--he is not going anywhere with that dog, except to the emergency room. The dog will eat him!
4-Pack,
The dog was German-bred, trained and titled and he did pretty well in the 2005 WUSV. Laius v. Moorbeck competed as part of the Russian team. He was, I believe, VA-2 in Canada that year and also competed in the Canadian Championship that year to qualify for the Russian team.
No, not impressive, as you or I would understand or use the term. But, he did the work. Interestingly, I recall that he scored a point higher in protection that a WL dog from this area, too. He was solidly in the middle of the pack of the WUSV results that year, so he did, indeed, hold his own.
I don't know if there is any video of him anywhere.
The big "mystery" to me with Laius was why SL breeders did not use this dog in their breeding programs. The only explanation I was ever given was" they moved to France." This from SL breeders who shipped a bitch, or two, to Germany every month!! You'd think with him going VA, and successfully competing at the WUSV, he'd have been in demand as a stud, huh? Nope.
by 4pack on 04 March 2009 - 17:03
Your last paragraph is really sad, really goes to show SL breeders don't really give 2 shits for work ethic.
by july9000 on 04 March 2009 - 18:03
That was YOUR statement I was quoting LOL
You said you had to have experience...I say no you don't..I did it without experience..i have learn with him..Did I say he was a GREAT teacher!!
A great dog can teach you much more than you can ever teach a dog..IMO..
by Mystere on 04 March 2009 - 18:03
I don't know why you are blocked. I didn't do it--why would I?
Yep, it is sad. I have asked a few of the SL breeders why they did not use Laius. The first words are France and the second are that they are breeding to Stud X "to improve the upper arm." Mind you, one of these breeders has produced poor-temperamented nerve-bags that are not even suiteable, IMO, for the pet homes where they end up. The thrid reason given is that they could breed to his brother or half-borther that was in the US...NOT that they did.
by 4pack on 04 March 2009 - 19:03
by DeesWolf on 04 March 2009 - 23:03
For as many breeders who select their breeding dogs based on what wins in the ring, there are a few who put temperament and function first.
by Mystere on 05 March 2009 - 00:03
You don't need to worry about the secret getting out, until the dogs start showing up on the trial fields. Then, the cat will be out of the bag.
by snajper69 on 05 March 2009 - 00:03
by Get A Real Dog on 05 March 2009 - 00:03
I have been on this board for over two years. I have seen one, I said one, video of someone here with a nice S/L dog. It was a bitch at that. That is it. So where, pray tell are all these outstanding working S/L dogs?
I know where they are........Fantasy land.
by 4pack on 05 March 2009 - 01:03
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