Stance on Muslims - Page 3

Hey Yellowrose...what do you think about McCain having the governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin, as his running mate?  

Veronica 

I will jump in and say I like her alot and will now vote for McCain, was thinking about not voting.

She is one sharp lady!

The West has been at war with Islam and it's inherents since the day old mo had his demonic dreams. Anyone who thinks otherwise has not studied history. This says it well

Dr. Emanuel Tanay is a well known and well respected
psychiatrist.

A German's point of view on Islam.

A man whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War ll
owned a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German
people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward
fanaticism.

"Very few people were true Nazis," he said, "but many enjoyed the
return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of
those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority
just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us,
and we had lost control, and the end of the world had come. My family lost
everything, I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my
factories."

We are told ag ain an d again by "experts" and "talking heads"
that Islam is the religion of peace, and that the vast majority of Muslims
just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true,
it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel
better, and meant to somehow diminish the spectra of fanatics rampaging
across the globe in the name of Islam. The fact is that the fanatics rule
Islam at this moment in history.

It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any
one of 50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically
slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually
taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who
bomb, behead, murder, or honor killing. It is the fanatics who take over
mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and
hanging of rape victims and homosexu als.&n bsp; The hard quantifiable fact
is that the "peaceful majority," the "silent majority," is cowed and
extraneous.

Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to
live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of
about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant. China's
huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill
a staggering 70 million people.

The average Japanese individual prior to World War ll was not a
warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across < BR>South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of
12 mill ion Chinese civilians; most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet.

And, who can forget Rwanda, which collapsed into butchery. Could
it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were "peace loving"?

History less ons ar e often incredibly simple and blunt, yet for
all our powers of reason we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of
points: Peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence.
Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don't speak up, because
like my friend from Germany, they will awaken one day and find that the
fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.

Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans,
Serbs, Afghanis, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and
many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it
was too lat e.

As for us who watc

Plus this

Long read, but worth it

The Study of Political Islam

"The history of political Islam is the destruction of Christianity in the Middle East, Egypt, Turkey and North Africa. Half of Christianity was lost. Before Islam, North Africa was the southern part of Europe (part of the Roman Empire). Around 60 million Christians were slaughtered during the jihadic conquest."

The Study of Political Islam
By Jamie Glazov
FrontPageMagazine.com | February 5, 2007

FP: Bill Warner, welcome to Frontpage Interview.
Warner: Thank you Jamie for this opportunity.

FP: Tell us a bit about the Center for the Study of Political Islam.

Warner: The Center for the Study of Political Islam is a group of scholars who are devoted to the scientific study of the foundational texts of Islam-Koran, Sira (life of Mohammed) and Hadith (traditions of Mohammed). There are two areas to study in Islam, its doctrine and history, or as CSPI sees it-the theory and its results. We study the history to see the practical or experimental results of the doctrine.

CSPI seems to be the first group to use statistics to study the doctrine. Previous scientific studies of the Koran are primarily devoted to Arabic language studies.

Our first principle is that Koran, Sira and Hadith must be taken as a whole. We call them the Islamic Trilogy to emphasize the unity of the texts.

Our major intellectual breakthrough is to see that dualism is the foundation and key to understanding Islam. Everything about Islam comes in twos starting with its foundational declaration: (1) there is no god but Allah and (2) Mohammed is His prophet. Therefore, Islam is Allah (Koran) and the Sunna (words and deeds of Mohammed found in the Sira and Hadith).

Endless ink has been wasted on trying to answer the question of what is Islam? Is Islam the religion of peace? Or is the true Islam a radical ideology? Is a moderate Muslim the real Muslim?

This reminds a scientist of the old arguments about light. Is light a particle or is light a wave? The arguments went back and forth. Quantum mechanics gave us the answer. Light is dualistic; it is both a particle and a wave. It depends upon the circumstances as to which quality manifests. Islam functions in the same manner.

Our first clue about the dualism is in the Koran, which is actually two books, the Koran of Mecca (early) and the Koran of Medina (later). The insight into the logic of the Koran comes from the large numbers of contradictions in it. On the surface, Islam resolves these contradictions by resorting to "abrogation". This means that the verse written later supersedes the earlier verse. But in fact, since the Koran is considered by Muslims to be the perfect word of Allah, both verses are sacred and true. The later verse is "better," but the earlier verse cannot be wrong since Allah is perfect. This is the foundation of dualism. Both verses are "right." Both sides of the contradiction are true in dualistic logic. The circumstances govern which verse is used.

For example:

(Koran of Mecca) 73:10: Listen to what they [unbelievers] say with patience, and leave them with dignity.

From tolerance we move to the ultimate intolerance, not even the Lord of the Universe can stand the unbelievers:

(Koran of Medina) 8:12: Then your Lord spoke to His angels and said, "I will be with you. Give strength to the believers. I will send terror into the unbelievers' hearts, cut off their heads and even the tips of their fingers"

All of Western logic is based upon the law of contradiction-if two things contradict, then at least one of them is false. But Islamic logic is dualistic; two things can contradict each other and both are true.

No dualistic system may be measured by one answer. This is the reason tha

How did Mohammed spread Islam?  

I know but would love to see your answer.

I don't think most Muslims are "extremists" or "murderers." I'd say that real, genuine "radical Islamists" who dance around whooping with glee when some psychopath flies a plane into a skyscraper in the name of Allah, probably only make up 10-15% of Muslims. Unfortunately, that small number, in a world that has over a billion Muslims, adds up to over 100 million fanatically evil people.

Moreover, there are two other additional problems related to this group of people:

1) There is no way for the rest of us to tell them apart from "moderate Muslims" who are not Jihadis, because the Jihadis constantly try to obfuscate the truth about what they believe.

2) Many "moderate Muslims," either because they're intimidated by the extremists or because they agree with them a lot more than they're letting on, seem to be in their thrall. Although there are certainly exceptions, and those people should be supported and congratulated, most moderate Muslims tend to follow right along behind the nutjobs who get off on the idea of decapitating Jews and forcing every woman to wear a burka.

Is that because most "moderate Muslims" are bad people? No, I don't think so. I think it's because most of them have no cahones. It's impossible not to note that "moderate Muslims" who do speak publicly, as a general rule, tend to get much more upset with people who point out that there are Muslims proudly murdering people in the name of Allah -- than the actual Muslims who are proudly murdering people in the name of Allah.

So that is the world we live in today: one where murderous savages commit atrocities in the name of Allah and moderate Muslims either cower in their presence or generally follow their lead, even if they don't agree with them.

The quicker we acknowledge that reality and take our actions accordingly as opposed to trying to make Muslims into the newest group that it's politically incorrect to tell the truth about, the better off western civilization and the world will be.

Well stated rat, wish I could write and make points as clearly as you. Good job.

The worst terrorists on this planet are us Christians. Remember Turkey the worlds greatest Christian power  only 400 years ago( My Heart Bleeds for Turkey) the so called Christian powers like Christian England, Christian Germany, Christian Rome stood watching and making merry even when the entreaties of the people of Turkey fell on deaf ears, the greatest Christian nation fell. The aftermath resulted in a massive massacre and forcible coversions of millions of Christians, litterally millions of Christians. One million Armenians  massacred about a hundred years ago in Turkey ( Where Were We).

In the many wars some between the Churches and the European Christian nations how many millions did we kill. The three world wars have seen only Christians kill Christians (How many millions). Hitler killed about six million Jew's, aren't they our brothers , don't they serve the same father as we.

Thousands of Christians are killed by radical Fundamental forces in India and Asia where are the Christian super powers.

Orissa in India burns today with over 50 Churches burned and several hundred people either dead or brutally battered, Where are the so called Christian super powers that rule the world.

A Christian is a Christian regardless of the denomination he belongs to and every Christian belongs to the "Nation Of Christ" irrespective of his colour, race and creed, denomination, no matter which country he belongs to.

Pray today and "ACT" for the "Nation Of the Christ"  

HODIE, I don't agree with some of your views on things, but this time, I agree completely!  No wonder american tourist are attacked in foreign countries and why most of the rest of the world view americans as spoiled little bratty children.

Gee Matador, just a few questions,

Where are the world wide Christian riots? Where's the Fatwa from the Pope?

If Christians are really so threatening and dangerous (remember the crusades (only 800 years ago) and the inquisition (only 500 years ago)) then I'm sure we'll see the things get out of hand  any day now.