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AlliGSD911

by AlliGSD911 on 12 April 2008 - 22:04

Thank you =)  I figured it meant something like that but wanted to be sure =)  I can't wait to hear the final results of everything!  I was hoping Ingodd's Albert would do really well, but I see he recieved a TSB = Suff


DeesWolf

by DeesWolf on 12 April 2008 - 22:04

Rezkat, your wording was very good. The problem is pronounced means different things to different judges. I would like to have been there to see the difference between pronounced, sufficient and INS.

I am anxious to get a first hand account from someone. A friend of mine called me after the tests and gave me a run down, but she isn't as experienced a reporter as I would have liked.


Rezkat5

by Rezkat5 on 12 April 2008 - 22:04

I definitely think that a "pronounced" at a sieger show, is not the same as a "pronounced" at a National Schutzhund Competition.  Of course, I've probably opened a big can of worms there!  LOL  Go easy on me!  I too would like to know what a judge's criteria is. 


AlliGSD911

by AlliGSD911 on 12 April 2008 - 22:04

Typically what would be classified as "sufficient"...a step down from pronounced?  Not biting with a full mouth? Being slightly hesitant? 

I am eager to hear a run down as well, unfortunately I don't know any personally who as able to go...


DeesWolf

by DeesWolf on 12 April 2008 - 22:04

The following is taken from the UScA Rules for a Sieger Show

"The judge will evaluate the gripwork as it is described in USA’s Schutzhund Rule Book, “The dog should counter the attack securely and energetically in stopping the attack by the helper.” A lack of self-confidence in the gripwork shall be evaluated as “sufficient” in courage."

 


AlliGSD911

by AlliGSD911 on 12 April 2008 - 22:04

Thank you =)


Rezkat5

by Rezkat5 on 12 April 2008 - 22:04

Shelley Strohl, who is there, I believe gave a very nice rundown last year.  So hopefully she will do the same this year.  ;)


by Aqua on 12 April 2008 - 23:04

TSB stands for Trieb (drive), Selbstsicherheit (self-confidence), Belastbarkeit (ability to withstand stress/pressure).


DeesWolf

by DeesWolf on 12 April 2008 - 23:04

Rezkat, Let me hold that can opener for you! I completely agree with you. I would hope other high line owners(I can say that I am one) would agree. I readily admit I am overly critical of bite work.

AlliGSD,

The following is taken from UScA Sieger Show Rules

"Evaluation of the Performance Test

  1. Dogs that do not demonstrate a correct performance test cannot receive the rating of Excellent-Select (VA).
  2. Dogs that continue to bump or re-grip after the "out" will be placed at the end of whatever conformation rating they would achieve.
  3. Dogs that do not perform the free heeling exercise within three (3) attempts, or dogs that do not perform the "out" exercise, or dogs that receive the evaluation of “sufficient” or “insufficient” cannot continue in the competition of the show. No rating is given. "

 


AlliGSD911

by AlliGSD911 on 12 April 2008 - 23:04

Aqua - Thank you!

O yes! I forgot she is there! Showing her male, Jed...can't wait to hear from her






 


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