Line fishing with one of my dogs - Page 9

Staying annonomous so you can get away ignorant comments is chicken.
You actually believe this short clip is the extent of ALL experience with gsds?

^Just want everyone to notice who the first person to go to name calling and ACTUALLY being rude is. This was a pretty good thread, nice and respectful IMO until you threw your hat in the ring and couldn't take the feedback on the video you posted. Unfortunate really.

Koots...no response to the fact that you didn't post any video? Just making false claims again?

BW - page 8, second post is the vid I posted.

Am I free to make an honest assessment? Is that what you're looking for? I would also definitely take the dog's history and claim of prior training into consideration.

You're free to make an assessment but it's not why I posted it.    I posted the vid because I was backing what I said in the first post of page 8.

I didn't get any 'feedback on the video' I posted, you only made broad comments about people 'glorifying' their dogs, and complaining that they knock podium dogs in favor of their personal dogs, which is more rubbish...but anything you say about anyone's dogs in videos posted doesn't mean a whole lot being as all you do knock individuals...again, who's coattails do you swing from, or do you even own a real dog?
Put up or shut up, with all your self righteous indignation.

PS. I deleted the personal insult before I saw your reply...I apologize for the inappropriate remarks which I have deleted.

I can actually see more of the dogs in this videos than when I look at a well trained dog in an IPO routine, all you see there is trained behaviour and not so much of the dog itself
the toptrainers of today can mask almost any shortcoming of their dog with smart training, where I am believer of fixing shortcomings in the welpingbox, last week I bought a good young dog from a world champion trainer, he didnot see the dog going to be for top points, the dog will make a fine policedog and I would use such dog for breeding, we had the same discussion on his club, training has become very smart today and it will lead to downfall of general quality

Duke, you would appreciate the pedigree on my male in the video. I agree with you about the training of podium/sport dogs.
I owned a podium dog, he turned out to be scared of going down open stairs and was scared of my hogs out in pasture. But he looked like a million bucks on the competition field. I prefer a dog that I can train to do sport but is sound environmentally.

Duke, there's nothing wrong with what you said. Yes...we can see a lot more of the dogs in those videos. The dogs posted, with better training, would definitely show better. Better training would hide some of their flaws and imperfections. They're good working dogs, they do the job that they're asked to do. For someone in your position...those videos are what you want to see, and the dogs are fine.

I don't think training will decrease quality, you'll always have people that can see through the training to the dog. There will always be breeders who breed to the winning dogs no matter what, there will also be those that breed to their next door neighbor and sell those dogs as something extra special. The majority of breeders can't train a dog the way the top trainers do, and if they're worth anything they'll still work their dogs, try to title them, and understand that even if you get lower scores, you've learned something about the dog. Have respect for the training and the skill, but it's entirely possible the dog in front of you can be better than a podium dog...breed those lines, continue producing good dogs. The moment those breeders don’t work their stock, and just depend on pedigree and line breedings…is when the quality of the dogs suffers (America is the prime example of that).

What’s illustrated with these videos, is what a good dog looks like with less than stellar training. Those dogs are all over the place and not impossible to find, they’re also not impossible to produce. There are hundreds of dogs born every day in the world that can work at the levels illustrated.

BW the dogs getting all the breedings are not the ones from the lesser trainers, but the ones from the smarter trainers, one previous czech national champ and WUSV competitor was with our discussion last week, he told me there are no good GSD anymore, while his last dog (GSD) was premium example of what I am saying, not so strong dog, smart training, national champion and WUSV, offspring zero,