KENNEL CLUB SUSPEND ALLOCATION OF GSD CC's for 2012

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by tigermouse on 26 July 2009 - 11:07

svbc, I think your idea is great, totally agree with AmbiiGSD

by missbeeb on 27 July 2009 - 09:07

I have no wish to offend anyone, but the scheme put forward by the "Partnership" is better and will be easier to "update and add to"... we've waited this long, let's give it a few more weeks and see what the KC decides, common sense may prevail.

by jaymesie51 on 27 July 2009 - 10:07

I agrre with you missbeeb lets see if the KC will give us this the one thing i have noticed though no mention of changing the name and dropping the word alsatian
jim h

by andria1r on 27 July 2009 - 11:07

As I have only been in this game for 10 months, so I don't feel I have the right to say anything on the matter (lack of experience) but it would be nice for the KC to acknolege that they understand that we want to move forward with our breed,
and not just want to pocket our money for their own ends(whatever that mey be).
Andria

by Videx on 27 July 2009 - 11:07

I would strongly urge ALL GSD Club Secretaries who anticipate having CC's in 2012 to contact the Kennel Club, and speak to Kathryn Symns. They should ask her whether they can proceed to secure a VENUE for their 2012 Championship Show?

I feel sure they will receive the same answer as a GSD Club Secretary has already received.

The position of the Kennel Club will then be very clear.

by Videx on 27 July 2009 - 11:07

(x) = 2-Day Show
CH. Shows expected in 2012 = x
Allertonshire
BAGSD
BGSDTC x
Birmingham x
Bolton x
Clyde Valley
Crewe
Derbyshire
Devon x
Essex
Fife
GSDC Scotland (x)
GSDC Wales
Heads of Valley
Kent
League x
Leicestershire x
Midland Counties x
N.Eastern GSDC x
N.Ireland
N'humberland x
Norfolk
North Wales
North Yorks
Preston & Fylde x
S.A.T.S
S.Western GSDC x
Sheffield x
South of Scotland x
South Yorks
Southern GSDC
United Kingdom
West Yorks

by cal123 on 27 July 2009 - 11:07

Hi, I do agree with all the health tests etc but we should remember why the K C wishes to implement their changes i.e. withdraw of C C's for 2012 and what they are stating is the double handling which can be excessive. I saw one woman running around the outside of a ring to alert her GSD and she had her baby under her arm whilst running! Health and Safety comes into this. A serious accident could and in time, no doubt will happen. Will the secretary of the club allowing this behavious be held responsible? The other things the K C mention is weak hocks and excessive sloping, maybe sometimes roach backlines. Cowhocks belong on cows, not GSD's, soundness in wind and limb is essential in a working breed of dog and yet GSD which cannot stand straight as their hocks are so deformed are winning C C's. I think it is cruel to breed dogs like this. This cannot be right no matter how famous their owners and handlers are. All we need, is for normality and balance to return - actually it has never gone away, we still retain this in our working bred stock and 'middle of the road' exhibits but these people do not speak up enough.

by Videx on 27 July 2009 - 12:07

Perhaps one day we may establish the priority of making measurable health tests on our dogs a priority over aesthetic aspects. And maybe we will establish greater knowledge about our breeds physical faults, and what is and what is not a 'roach back'. I suppose it will be very difficult to do this with those in our breed who ignore the German Sieger Show, which is by far the numerically largest single breed show in the World. This show, held by our breeds founding club, in our breeds founding country, clearly and annually illustrates the actual interpretation of our breeds standard. "There are none so blind as those that do not want to see". There are none so arrogant as to reject what this show offers our breed by way of its desired conformation.

Perhaps we should place, annually, photographs of the first 20 of each class of the German Sieger Show, and include the Judges critique - on a dedicated British Website for the true German Shepherd Dog CONFORMATION.

by svbc1 on 27 July 2009 - 12:07

cal123. The health and safety issues to a point cannot be argued with. To suspend tickets because of anatomical misgivings is ridiculous , suspension is not going to eradicate or correct any amount of anatomical issues.

by jaymesie51 on 27 July 2009 - 12:07

I agree that their are some dogs winning that are unsound behind and that is wrong but an unsound dog can and will live a pain free life where as a displastic dog will not, the KC need to get their priority's right, i am sure we can sort out the unsoundness and double handling our self's given time but displastic puppies dont have time surely that has to take priority with the KC and they should make it mandatory now
jim h

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