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by Shtal on 19 March 2013 - 17:03
Ruger1 wrote: he was used as a tool to fulfill God's purpose
First honest question?
Where does it says that in the BIBLE about God's tool or is it your just speculation?
Second honest question?
Is he was tool in God's hand or without?
If he was tool in God's hand then how could you apply this scripture John Chapter 10:27-29
First honest question?
Where does it says that in the BIBLE about God's tool or is it your just speculation?
Second honest question?
Is he was tool in God's hand or without?
If he was tool in God's hand then how could you apply this scripture John Chapter 10:27-29

by Ruger1 on 19 March 2013 - 17:03
Gouda,,Did you seriously just ask me if I know what happened to your post?,,Why don't you ask a moderator..
GSDGuy,,I will say it again.. I want you to speak to me personally,,I want to hear you respond to my post, not copy and paste a response from an article or whatever . Why is this so hard to understand?..Is communicating using your own spontaneous, unrehearsed words so difficult to do?..I know the scriptures enough that I can communicate without needing chapter and verse. Be real ; don't just regurgitate information ...
Furthermore, I have no need to draw any conclusions as I have already drawn my conclusions. I am simply posting a different position for those reading this thread to consider. I have studied and have carefully and prayerfully come to my conclusions concerning my doctrinal beliefs no different then you have,,
You keep suggesting that I have ignored a question, but I have not seen where you have narrowed it down to one direct question. Direct me to that question and I will be happy to respond. I do not believe that I have made any false assertions about scripture..Please direct me to that assertion.
I strongly disagree with most of what Gouda and Shtal preach on this forum and have tried to avoid having to say it plainly. Unfortunately you share many of the same beliefs.and I feel that those reading this thread have a need to hear what I have to say. I share my opinions out of conscience and for the pure love of the Gospel. .,,
Deanna..:)
GSDGuy,,I will say it again.. I want you to speak to me personally,,I want to hear you respond to my post, not copy and paste a response from an article or whatever . Why is this so hard to understand?..Is communicating using your own spontaneous, unrehearsed words so difficult to do?..I know the scriptures enough that I can communicate without needing chapter and verse. Be real ; don't just regurgitate information ...
Furthermore, I have no need to draw any conclusions as I have already drawn my conclusions. I am simply posting a different position for those reading this thread to consider. I have studied and have carefully and prayerfully come to my conclusions concerning my doctrinal beliefs no different then you have,,
You keep suggesting that I have ignored a question, but I have not seen where you have narrowed it down to one direct question. Direct me to that question and I will be happy to respond. I do not believe that I have made any false assertions about scripture..Please direct me to that assertion.
I strongly disagree with most of what Gouda and Shtal preach on this forum and have tried to avoid having to say it plainly. Unfortunately you share many of the same beliefs.and I feel that those reading this thread have a need to hear what I have to say. I share my opinions out of conscience and for the pure love of the Gospel. .,,
Deanna..:)

by Ruger1 on 19 March 2013 - 17:03
Shtal,,"While I was with them, I was keeping them in Your name which You have given Me; and I guarded them and not one of them perished but the son of perdition, so that the Scripture would be fulfilled." John 17:12
I posted this verse on the previous page for you,,,a tool meaning used to fullfill a purpose..
I am sorry you will have to re-state your second honest question I don't understand what you are asking me...
I posted this verse on the previous page for you,,,a tool meaning used to fullfill a purpose..
I am sorry you will have to re-state your second honest question I don't understand what you are asking me...

by Shtal on 19 March 2013 - 18:03
If God guarded and NOT perish, then why Judas had perish? and where does it says in the Bible that Judas was a tool?

by Ruger1 on 19 March 2013 - 18:03
Shtal, You will need to have one of your buddies here translate for you because I have no idea what you are asking..
Judas was used to fulfill a purpose; a tool is used to get a job done; God used Judas to get a job done...I can not make it any more plain or simple for you..
Judas was used to fulfill a purpose; a tool is used to get a job done; God used Judas to get a job done...I can not make it any more plain or simple for you..

by Shtal on 19 March 2013 - 19:03
Can you back it up with scripture or is it Just your speculation,
People here on this board don't know Bible, so should they take your words or you can back it up what the Bible says about Judas was a tool?
People here on this board don't know Bible, so should they take your words or you can back it up what the Bible says about Judas was a tool?

by GSDtravels on 19 March 2013 - 19:03
Shtal, what makes you think we don't know the Bible? I know the Bible well and so do most here, sorry that not many agree with your interpretations, but that's your problem. You should listen to a wise woman, but then, your interpretation of the Bible would never permit that, now would it? You have single-handedly turned more people away from Christianity than those you rail against. That's what you'll never understand, or worse, even care to.

by gouda on 19 March 2013 - 20:03
Who is the wise woman you are referring to Travel?
gouda
gouda

by Two Moons on 19 March 2013 - 20:03
LOL...
I think that one went right over your head gouda.
shhoooooshhhh
I think that one went right over your head gouda.
shhoooooshhhh

by gouda on 19 March 2013 - 20:03
No it didnt moons,I just wantet Travels to speak her name.
I know who she was referring to.
Proverbs 26:12
Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him.
gouda
I know who she was referring to.
Proverbs 26:12
Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him.
gouda
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