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by khlewis on 30 November 2012 - 20:11

@ Ramgsd,

That was a link to someone else who ha a bad experience with this couple and they posted a review about it on another site.

Ruger1

by Ruger1 on 30 November 2012 - 21:11

khlewis,,
Again I will say there are better, more mature, and decent ways of communicating on a public forum then what has been displayed here on this thread....




Judy P

by Judy P on 01 December 2012 - 01:12

It is interesting how the OP comes here complaining that she hasn't gotten her deposit back but one look at her site states deposits are non-refundable.  Why does one breeder get condemed for not refunding it by a breeder who doesn't refund herself.

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 01 December 2012 - 01:12

Just so we're clear............are we really smearing someone's name and reputation over $200? Or am I missing some zeroes somewhere or something...........surely no one would lose much sleep or raise such a ruckus over $200? 

I don't know Bob  and I don't know the OP. But I don't see why Bob needs to refund a deposit when, in the end, the buyer was the one unable to perform. In a real estate transaction, Bob could sue for specific performance (if he felt like dealing with a major headache instead of just reselling the house...). I would give the money back just because I'm one of those people who would rather pay someone to go away than deal with more headaches than necessary. But that doesn't mean that the OP is "entitled" to it. We don't know the full story, as usual. I just think it is BEYOND tacky to make posts like this, even if you're "right," when there is no animal's welfare at stake, no large sum of money, etc. Calling someone a crook on an international forum for what appears to be a "shit happens" transaction gone wrong is not nice. 

by joanro on 01 December 2012 - 02:12

Jenni, it's the Internet...it's so easy now, and I guess gratifying, for people who have a complaint to just smear once "reputable" breeders. This forum is a cesspool for weak-minded people with nothing better to do than wipe out years of hard work and dedication with alligations typed out on a keyboard...and presto, Rip off Report starts their solicitation for money to remove the whimsically placed smear campaign. I suppose they are getting pretty wealthy "restoring" business's reputations and the airhead putting this sort of crap on the Internet gets all giggly thinking about the ruination of hard working people's reputations. But that's the advice floating around every where, it's all about "get even" and "warn others". That's all well and good if it's legitimate. But to intentionally Fu$$$k people up who have many thousands of dollars and years of their lives invested in something in order to get even is a good indication of how psychotic society has become.
Look how many of these "warnings" are on this website. Tis site for bashing, la la la la la la la la la. [**~]

mfh27

by mfh27 on 01 December 2012 - 02:12

"But I don't see why Bob needs to refund a deposit when, in the end, the buyer was the one unable to perform"

How do you figure?  The buyer wants to buy the dog.  The seller no longer wants to sell the dog to the buyer.  The seller has decided to end the transaction.  It would be poor business practice to keep the deposit of a willing buyer.  The seller has willingly chosen to lose money on this transaction, both the potential money from other buyers and the money from the OP.

I'm not passing judgment on either party as I don't know what the real story is.  I'm simply commenting on the story the OP presented.  Bob has PM'd in the past in response to my questions and has been very helpful.

I say give the money back because its the right thing to do, not because you simply want to "get rid" of the buyer.

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 01 December 2012 - 02:12

She was the one who didn't end up going to whatever show she was going to go to, so the dog didn't get picked up. How long did he have that dog because he was waiting for the buyer to come get the dog? Lots of variables here. They both made travel plans that got canceled...hence my "shit happens transaction" label on the whole thing. Threatening people isn't the best way to coax them into refunding non-refundable deposits. 

 I have refunded several deposits to people I didn't want to sell a dog to. Sure, it's the right thing to do, but I also do it to get rid of them because I don't want them as a home for one of my pups!  If you have money, they have a reason to contact you, potentially, and there isn't enough time in a day to waste on people you don't want to sell a dog to. 

Seriously............$200??????????

by khlewis on 01 December 2012 - 02:12

@Jenni78,

I have offered to come and get the dog and they have told me that I cannot have the dog ad cannot have my deposit back. Also, it is more the principle of the matter than the dollar amount.

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 01 December 2012 - 02:12

Yes, I get that. He doesn't want to sell you a dog. 

Principle is a hard sell when you're smearing someone on the internet. I'd say principle would be more along the lines of not sinking to someone else's level, especially not over 200, but that's just me.......



by khlewis on 01 December 2012 - 03:12

Yes my website states that deposits are non-refundable, but that is in the case of the buyer backing out of the sale. If I decide not to sell to someone or back out on shipping arrangements the. Of course I refund the deposit. Generally I willing to refund the deposit in most cases because I usually have a wait list for puppies so finding the puppy a good home is no a problem for me. I do not believe in keeping people's money if I am the one backing out of the sale.





 


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