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by beetree on 07 December 2011 - 14:12
If you have a need greater than mine to be right, then you are "right" with whatever you perceive because I can't prove to you that you see the color red the same way I do. I can make a note that it is not what I am seeing when we look at the same thing, and whenever I see you coming to a stop light, I'll do my best not to be anywhere near it.
by Ninja181 on 07 December 2011 - 14:12
Some people are color blind.
Some people (predominately males) are partially color blind.
I'm partially color blind, yet I see all the colors placed in front of me, some look diiferent than what you people see. But the color I see has a name to it that I am accustom too.
Some people (predominately males) are partially color blind.
I'm partially color blind, yet I see all the colors placed in front of me, some look diiferent than what you people see. But the color I see has a name to it that I am accustom too.
by GSDtravels on 07 December 2011 - 14:12
beetree, where did I say I had to be "right"? The only thing I asked is that you prove we're seeing the same color. And you answered that question... you can't.
And Ninja, you are a straight "A" student! I thought it would take longer to get to color-blindness. Let's examine it!
Do you have too few cones and rods, or does the majority of the population have too many?
And Ninja, you are a straight "A" student! I thought it would take longer to get to color-blindness. Let's examine it!
Do you have too few cones and rods, or does the majority of the population have too many?
by beetree on 07 December 2011 - 14:12
GSDTravels, you didn't say it, but it would be true, nonetheless.
by GSDtravels on 07 December 2011 - 14:12
No, you're missing the point. What is right for you, may be different for me. Since it can't be proven, and since I'm not denying you the "right" to see red where I see green, does it really matter, in the end, who's RIGHT?
by beetree on 07 December 2011 - 14:12
That's the thing, it doesn't matter to you, as you say, but who can say for the other person? And there is always another person, otherwise we end up talking about trees falling in forests...
by GSDtravels on 07 December 2011 - 14:12
As long as we're all stopping at the light and in doing so, bringing no harm to the others around us, does it really matter which color our eyes are "seeing"? Do one of us really have to be "right"?
by GSDtravels on 07 December 2011 - 14:12
Ninja is color blind, so he "knows" he's not seeing the same color, from evidence that was brought about by science, which his mind is capable of comprehending. He can process that and understand it, but he can't MAKE his eyes see red. So, that brings us to who is actually RIGHT!
Like I said, does he have tOo few cones and rods, or do we have too many? Finding the answer and VERIFYING it by evidence can get us closer to the, but does the RIGHT answer really matter in the end? Can we allow that he has the right to "see" a diffent color, or can we FORCE him to admit that what he's seeing is the same thing we're seeing?
Like I said, does he have tOo few cones and rods, or do we have too many? Finding the answer and VERIFYING it by evidence can get us closer to the, but does the RIGHT answer really matter in the end? Can we allow that he has the right to "see" a diffent color, or can we FORCE him to admit that what he's seeing is the same thing we're seeing?
by Ninja181 on 07 December 2011 - 14:12
GSDtravels,
If they give me one of those circle things that have a bunch of colors in and you are supposed to see a particular number. I can see the number in probably 4 out of 6.
However if they put in a basket 30 little pieces of yarn all different colors and pull them out one at a time I will properly identify every color. But I know that I see the colors a little different than people who aren't partially color-blind. However I have been conditioned to what name that color is.
Don't really have a clue to your rods and cones question.
If they give me one of those circle things that have a bunch of colors in and you are supposed to see a particular number. I can see the number in probably 4 out of 6.
However if they put in a basket 30 little pieces of yarn all different colors and pull them out one at a time I will properly identify every color. But I know that I see the colors a little different than people who aren't partially color-blind. However I have been conditioned to what name that color is.
Don't really have a clue to your rods and cones question.
by GSDtravels on 07 December 2011 - 14:12
EXACTLY Ninja! But it still doesn't make you SEE the same color! You can understand that what you're seeing is different than what others see, but you still can't SEE it. There are just some things in life that have no "right" answer. As long as we can agree that we SEE things differently, based on our SENSES, and do no harm to others in staying true to ourselves, there's really no need to argure over such silly things!
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