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"Nope I wasn,t, no WDA trials in my area and I don,t want to belong to a group beholding to another group for my legitimacy."

LMAO!  You aren't seriously suggesting that UScA isn't beholden to the SV for the air of legitimacy; are you?

My point in asking that question should be obvious...no big deal to you because you never had a dog in that fight anyway but your assertion that people who did...for a lot more years than you've been able to spell GSD...don't have a legitimate right to be upset is without merit.  You also overlook that many of those very experienced people took a lot of hard-learned knowledge with them when they left.  You can continue to tell yourself that the organization is just as strong or stronger without them but I'd rather train with with one experienced dog person than 50 novices any day.
 

Keith:

             Sorry to tell you but you try to twist this like everyone who is somebody left! Your misinformed. And with out the agreement with the GSDCA the WDA will just twist in the wind. I,ll bet you a good steak that when the GSDCA has used the WDA till it,s no longer usefull they will drop them like a used rubber.

Keith they have all the right in the world to be pissed but don,t act like a sqauling child over it. Do something about it or move on.

I didn't say or imply that everyone who is someone left, Bob; only that a lot of people who left took a lot of valuable knowledge with them.  

I see you've added more to your post since I began my response...

They did do something about it...they left.

You're right, I must be terribly misinformed...it isn't like the UScA was ever allied with the GSDCA...oh no, wait...how much do you really know about the history of your organization?  For that matter, how much do you really know about your chosen messiah?  You might want to talk to some old Germans about his reputation in the dog world in his own country before he came here...it might be enlightening.

Messiah?? I,ve got no clue who you are talking about. And Keith if I go back and talk to your parents I bet when you were little you pooped your pants on occasion but that doesnt make you a pants shitter now...or does it?  Yes they left and that was there choice...

Sorry for the confusion Keith G.   My remarks about DVG were directed towards Keith J.'s comments about DVG.

Well I gotta go out and train with my little group.  See you guys later. 

Bob - Good Luck to you and Feist in the trial, buddy!!

gsdshow I too desire  peaceful co-existance and the freedom to train with whom ever I feel best suits my needs! If I must be a member of a wda club because  a usca one does not exist closer ! why should I be penalized !  why should any usca memeber be denied the freedom  to be a member of any  club!  Now  a usca member cannot be a member of any other non usca club and most clubs require membership in order to train ! I agree with abiding by trial rules and regulations! Most  organizations who do schutzhund follow usca trial rules!Correct! I love the  clubs and organizations! I hate the  restrictions  placed because of a power struggle! Bob !Good luck ( no such thing as luck ) but I wish you the best at trialing! let us know soon the results!

Bob,
         I would say your right most the old timers are not
going anywhere. But I have never known Wallace Payne
to be this upset over these two guys. Jon is like most
of his peer group, but I don't know Lyle. MBA type maybe??
I do know if you start getting the old timers pissed they will all
step forward.....But nobody and mean nobody likes to screw
with a Judge. It will always comes back at you.
I am retired so I can speak freely....this does not sound like
Wallace Payne... He is not a soupbox hundsman..so there
must be something here.

Who is UScA's real leader? Lyle or Johannes?
by wallacepayne on 23 September 2010 - 21:09 wallacepayne

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From my point of view I think it's Johannes! He make all the moves he make all the statements. Lyle is just a puppet! The more I read the Johannes interview the more I realize how twisted and delusional this man is and how he has twisted the minds of UScA members. If anyone really just sit down and read he interview you will see that One: This has nothing to do with the GSD and everything to do with the Team. Two: You will see the hypocrisy of his entire interview. He talks about how the GSDCA are presenting what he call "A Creature" and they call the "Creature" the best the breed has to offer but later in the interview he talks about sitting down with that same organization and negotiate a one qualification trial.....Go figure?


Where the delusion comes in is, if he or anyone else think for a Damn Minute that WDA will not be sitting across the table from UScA along side the GSDCA in putting together a one qualification trial (Which he insinuate in his interview by saying the WDA do not exist for the WUSV) are "Got Damn Fools"!

Johannes is a advocate for hate, not the GSD! If you get Johannes out of power the hate will stop. Better yet maybe the real UScA President should stand up......Who is it????

Good point Raymond and we can agree to disagree.  We both enjoy dogsport so we have something in common.

Good luck Bob!

deleted because I think what I was saying was really just more of the same.