KENNEL CLUB SUSPEND ALLOCATION OF GSD CC's for 2012 - Page 8

This thread has fallen into the usual mire of abuse and point scoring with very few worthwhile and constructive comments. With this in mind I would like to introduce some comments, hopefully, to bring this subject back on track. If readers would like to contribute by all means do so, however, I would ask that all personal prejudices be left in the dustbin where they belong. If people cannot contribute meaningfully, sensible and in a polite manner then they should pass no comment at all.

Firstly, the allocation of C.C’s for 2012 is nearly three years away. This means that provided we keep talking to the KC we have time to negotiate what we want. Our leaders should devise a plan to keep this process alive. We cannot afford to suspend meetings with the KC but we can ensure that when they take place we have something worthwhile to say. Also, remember that our leaders were voted into office. If they do not come up to scratch then they can be voted out. A meaningful ending can only be achieved by negotiation and not by bluster and abuse.

Secondly, some sets of C.C.’s will be lost so let us face that now. With falling entries that will in some way be a good thing. It will reduce the number of unworthy dogs getting a title just because the competition was not available.

Thirdly, it could be suggested to the KC that Clubs eligible for Championship Shows remain but the determination as to whether the C.C’s would be on offer would depend on the number of entries and the announcement made once entries have closed. If entries are insufficient the show would revert to an Open Show. The show future would then be in the hands of the exhibitor.

As this thread is about the show side only these comments should be seen as a basis for discussion on this point alone. We all know that the breed has many other serious matters to deal with and negotiate with the KC but not on this thread. Let us keep to the point and see where it takes this discussion.

Mackenzie

 on the contrary eq - I enjoy identifying morons on this board, and many of them, including you, confirm your moron status in a similar manner. so EQ = moron. Now you are known for what you are! goodbye!

Make no mistake in this age of computers and instant communication, we can convince the public very quickly and very effectively, that a GSD Breed Two Tier Registration System, with the first Tier based on the "Accredited GSD Scheme" which is far superior than the KENNEL CLUB "Accredited Breeders Scheme".

If you believe that you really are away with the fairies!!
Most people who buy puppies are pet owners, pet owners want KC registered puppies, if you really think you can do a better job then put your money where your mouth is and do it now(what are you waiting for)

And as for this statement below



If the Kennel Club wish to genuinely work with the GSD breed for a much better future, they need to allow double handling at all of our GSD Breed Shows, and restrict it at ALL BREEDS Shows. The Kennel Club will also need to DROP the name ALSATIAN, and co-operate with our GSD breed by implementing a Two Tier registration system based on the "Accredited GSD Scheme", with our 're-vitalised' Breed Council playing a pivotal role.

It's never gonna happen, it's the double handling thats caused all this so they are not gonna be railroaded by the small minority that you are

The Kennel Club have some good stipulations  BUT ONLY  if it enhances their bank balance    !!!!!!!!!!.
SO I can't see why it should be such an impossibility for the K.C. to change things for the better , it could easily be done without the K.C. losing any of their precious income like this  for instance > 

1. ALL BREEDERS TO HAVE THE CHOICE OF WHICH REGISTRATION CLASS THEY USE. ( effective immediately ).
2. THE CURRENT REGISTRATION BEING- CLASS.2. ( for which the K.C. could charge more for if they so desired to encourage breeders to use the higher class reg ).
3. TO BE ELIGEABLE TO REGISTER PROGENY IN  CLASS 1. THE PARENTS MUST HAVE THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA.
4. HIP AND ELBOW GRADED  ( maximum acceptable scores to be determined )  FROM EITHER  U.K. BVA OR FOREIGN CERTIFICATION.
5. HAEMOPHILIA BLOOD TESTS FOR MALES.

  I am sure the above could be arranged by the Kennel Club almost immediatly without too much of a problem and would certainly be a good starting point !.

  The non K.C. organisations e.g. the GSD patnership or Breed Council to have their own even higher rules etc which would include the above criteria plus breed surveyed dogs/bitches and any other stipulations they may require , to be brought in over a period of time to be agreed on. The K.C. could even put a gold star or similar on the registrations of litters whose parents have also passed the GSD breed organisations requirements.

Surely this would be a more simple way of getting things headed in the right direction for The German Shepherd Dog breed without too many complications to start with .

The price of puppies sold would obviously reflect on which registration was issued. The public would soon become aware and understand the difference between the Class 1 and 2 registrations !. ( as we had before but for different reasons )

EITHER WAY THE BREEDERS STILL HAVE THEIR CHOICE AND ARE NOT DIRECTLY FORCED.

THIS WOULD SOON SHOW WHICH  BREEDERS REALLY CARE ABOUT THE GERMAN SHEPHERD DOG BREED !. 

The "Accredited GSD Scheme"
http://www.videxgsd.com/proposed_accredited_gsd_scheme.htm

IMHO I do think that svbc1's idea is the far easier, least complicated and fastest implimented way to sort the wheat from the chaff.