Are dog people really going to vote for Romney? - Page 8

Gezzuz everyone I know is voting for Ron Paul. Where do you people come from ? LOL

Blitzen, good post putting religious wacko in their place....it get very tiresome. JESSSIEE.... JESSIEE...

You may not know that our constitution does not require that any candidate for President be of a specific faith. In the US we are allowed to worship where, when and who we choose. This country was founded on that concept. What was yours founded on?



Yet many times  Romney being Mormon has been belittled and attacked on these threads by same poster.

Examples from the posts:

We can keep this up all year. There are just as many inaccurate  and exagerated links out there trashing Romney as there are  Obama. Read this about Romney? He a high priest in the mormon church and  says satan and Jesus are brother. Do you believe it? Why? Wanna see more?

The religious zealots in this country are such hypocrits and liars......and we are allowing them to infleunce our elections?

 

If it was on the net, it has to be true, doesn't it, BE? Did you know that Mitt was born in Afghanistan and his father was a German Shepherd? He's actually not eligible to run for President. Also he's a moron, oops mormon, high priest and you know how those mormons are with all those wives. Geez....talk about hidden agendas.


Again respect wanted when talking about one side when none is offered for the other candidate.






just found on another thread:

I wish the Paul supporters good luck. It would be even a more interesting election with all the right wing zealots not quite knowing who to support - the Muslim atheist or the old guy who wants to legalize pot. I imagine many have already compromised their ethics when they decided to support a Mormon high priest. Maybe they will write in Norquist. For sure they will need to scramble to rewrite their script if Romney doesn't prevail.

 

Never mind, my bad.


 

I am discussing this topic in full and have been involved in these threads. I am not stalker nor have I where you are concerned. I have been involved in all of these threads.

Do you understand the concept of using rhetoric to make a point? Didn't you get that what I said about Romney was said in jest?

Shtal, get out of my thread with your religious babble. There are plenty of Christian people who believe in a woman's right to choose and plenty of them will be voting for Obama. How dare you judge them with your hoiler-than-thou chest thumping crap? Doesn't the Bible say - judge not lest you be judged. You are such a hypocrite. If you want to push your zealot agenda, start your own thread as  you have done so many times in the past until the admin had to forbid more religious posts.  Now that they have reconsidered and given you your pulpit back, use it. 


Blitzen, no where in this has Shtal judged, though you accused him of doing so. I went through the whole thread and found nothing that was him judging. I find it very interesting how you claim the bible is crap, and religion is a joke, but yet you come back to fight Shtal with the very scriptures itself. Why is that? If it is of no value, you shouldn't have to come back at Shtal with it. You have however claimed no one is to make a judgement on someone.....And you used the scripture in Matthew, but did you look at the last sentence in that? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.  Note the last part of that "and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye"....... 

And even in the Romans passage it is referring to those who practice certain sins, but yet judge others who do the same things.......as in being hypocritical.  The truth is, if we go by what the scriptures say we are called to judge others...so long as we are not being hypocrites.....The scriptures even go to say that the Saints will judge the world....and even the angels.  The truth is though, any time a Christian says something about the scriptures....if it goes against anything someone else does, they say the Christian is being judgmental, hateful, etc. It makes the person very uneasy......Which I find ironic, as Christians are told to tolorate (by non Christians) what others do and not say anything.....but yet it's okay for the non Christians to bash and belittle Christianity? Really? Even among Christians there are those who say "you're juding me" and they don't like it.  Question to you Blitzen....Being a Christian deals with living as the New Testament commands them to live.  If a person who is a Christian and claims to believe the bible, but doesn't follow what much of what it tells them to do......goes to church and hears the preacher condemning certain things that they actually do that they should not be doing according to the scriptures......Would that be judgmental? (2 Timothy 4:1-5)  Christians "should" want to know where they are wrong according to the scriptures, and sometimes it takes another to point that out.  I see nowhere, where Shtal judged in any way in this thread.  And if Christians can't judge, how are they to see the difference between righteousness and wickedness?

! Corinthians 6:1-6 is partially speaking of discouraging lawsuits, but it does go to mention who the Christians will judge...
Does any one of you, when he has a case against his neighbor, dare to go to law before the unrighteous and not before the saints? 2 Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? If the world is judged by you, are you not competent to constitute the smallest law courts? 3  Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more matters of this life? 4 So if you have law courts dealing with matters of this life, do you appoint them as judges who are of no account in the church? 5  I say this to your shame. Is it so, that there is not among you one wise man who will be able to decide between his brethren, 6 but brother goes to law with brother, and that before unbelievers?

1 Corinthians 2: 14-16 The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. 15 The spiritual person judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one. 16  “For who has understood the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?” But we have the mind of Christ.

GSDguy, if I say you are right can we please got off this religious kick?  There is no a law that says the President of the US has to practice a specific religion, so it's a moot point where both candidates are concerned.  There is at least one Muslim elected official already serving in one state, so I think you need to understand that not every citizen of this country judges others by first asking what religion they practice, how, and where.  I don't even know if most of my friends attend a church let alone which one. Why does that matter so much to some of you?  Do you follow every directive made in the Bible or do you cherry pick the directives that fit your lifestyle the best? It's either all or nothing, isn't it?

My point in this is, the president of the US when I was born was Harry Truman, Who ordered the atomic bombs be dropped on Japan, I don't know what denomination he was, but he was friends of Tom Pendegas (spelling) who ran everything in in Kansas City, both legal and illigal. But Truman saved a lot of lives by his decision to do so. That ended WW2.

Eisenhower was the first president I remember. Those were pretty good days, interstate hiways started being built. He was loved by a lot of people both dems and republcans. But had his whore around for many years. Check it out yourself.

When Kennedy ran against Nixon, Most christian churches were at that time convinced the Catholic church was the anti-christ. Very liberal and non christian. kennedy was a great civil rights president and work, and the economy was good,and in my opinion he was a president that brought both sides together and bring hope to people,i don't remember having bomb drills in school after he was killed. He was also a party  going, skirt chaser. 

Then came LBJ., Who did more for civil rights than any president in history. I do remember segregated  store lines, drinking fountains, blacks were treated like non-human beings even after fighting for our freedom and dying for this country. I remember at night on the news German Shepherd attack dogs being used on them just because they weren't the same color as us But president Johnson even after all his successes in bills he got passed left office as a drunk, low rating because of the war.

Then came Nixon, a Quaker. The lowest of low in my opinion. A crook, Liar, watergate, to much to list. But I believe his daughter is a really good person. So he couldn't have been all bad. The biggest thing I noticed was people began to not trust government much. 

Gerald Ford, Good guy, just not much.

jimmy Carter, A babtist Chistian. A very honest person. Nothing much worked for him. A real friend to Isreal and worked hard for peace in the middle east while the economy here in America went to crap.

Ronald Reagan, professed christian, retired actor, ex gov. of Calif. Ex union president of the screen actors guild while he was benifiting from it. Decided on trickle down economics, money for rich and break the unions. Defeat Russia by out spending them, He did and it worked but darn near broke the country in the process. Made the comment on tv that a worker was not worth what they were being paid, and started a division between labor and management across the nation. Those have been the worst years for work in my lifetime. The economy for construction went to pot in a heartbeat.. But some people liked him . I still can't figure that out.

George Bush, Christian man. completely out of touch with working class. Again money at the top that did not trickle down. But a good person.

President Clinton. A confessed christian, ex gov. He had a way of communicating with average people. Brought the economy back. Crime rate went down. The economy was the best in my lifetime. The middle class began to make a comeback. Religious right hated him said he was no christian, The greatest president in my lifetime in my opinion. But a blow job done him in.

George W., A christian, oil man, surrounded by a lot of big business crooks. Anti labor, instrumental in getting us in 2 wars on credit. Again like Reagan darn near brought the nation to a financial disaster. If you doubt it , remember when McCain and Obama called off their campaigns to return to Washington to help the eminent collaps of the financial markets. All total failure of a administration, controlled by Cheney and Karl Rove.

President Obama, a professed christian, saved GM, Chrysler, killed Bin Laden, passed health care bill cut all to pieces trying to get bipartisan support from a do nothing republican congress. Economy is improving slow. Work for the middle class is coming back.

I will vote for Obama, there is no way I would vote for someone with a "Trickle Down" theology. It has never worked and never will. What will destroy this country is extremists that refuse to work together for the overall good of the nation. You can never have freedom or liberty if you don't respect others their rights to disagree with yours.

Hank




  

Blitzen, I will leave this as my last post on the thread. To your statement do I follow every directive made in the Bible.......I try to, but being human I fail at things, at times, yes.  I do try to live as the New Testament would call for Christians to live though.   I just wanted to clarify to you about those passages you mentioned though, and as to what they really are directed towards.  Of course there is no law that says the president has to practice a certain religion.  I think you've missunderstood my point in what you stated about "not every citizen of this country judges others by first asking what religion they practice, how, and where", but I will leave it at that.