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by sueincc on 25 September 2011 - 17:09
We see right through you, Shtal. You can't defend your shit breeding so you resort to trying to hide behind your religion. AHAHAHHAHAA!!!!!!!

by mollyandjack on 25 September 2011 - 18:09
by VomMarischal on 25 September 2011 - 18:09

by Ruger1 on 25 September 2011 - 21:09
Ok, guys and gals...
I have read through this thread from start to finish and I have come to the conclusion about a couple of things....I would like to give my opinion about....
Shtal posted this thread because he was sharing information about his dog...Yes, an oversized GSD...He should not have bred him according to the standards that are set forth for breeding. I agree that he absolutely should not have done this, but you all are a bunch of bullies IMO....
He never mentioned the Bible or any other religious thing until you all provoked him to it...I do not think it is adult like or kind for that matter to provoke people on to do things that you intend to bash him over....You all now that Shtal is a Christian and you say things like Bible Basher, Bible Thumper, and mock him preaching on Sunday ect...Not nice....You are acting like school children...
I do not agree with Shtals breeding practices. I also do not agree with his quoting scriptures to folks who are not interested...But, he loves his GSD dog and you all insulted him and ENJOYED every minute of it....That is what bothers me the most....:(
I am glad that I got this off my chest....: )
Deanna....

by Stumpywop on 25 September 2011 - 22:09
That he hasn't bothered with hip or elbow scoring; that he bred his male without help or advice from experienced and knowledgeable breeders; that he bred this male without any regard for health or temperament; that potentially the experimental litter will result in dogs with health issues due to their size; that he is not an ethical breeder; that he has not contributed positively to the breed; that such an animal will only ever be a pet and won't have the physical capability to partake in Sch or WT; that the pups he has produced will be bought for inflated prices; that the dogs he breeds will go to homes that could have a GSD from a rescue; etc
I could go on all night but what's the point. Such fools with over inflated egos who think they're better than anyone and everyone else are dangerous. He has done the GSD breed no favours in his attempt (and ultimate success) in breeding a dog which doesn't belong anywhere.
I don't know if it's the same in the US, but in the UK we consider such breeders to be BYB (back yard breeders). Such people (and I use the term very loosely) don't give a toss about anyone but themselves and certainly don't care about dogs. Schtal cares about his pocket ie how much money will go into it from breeding his dog. No decent or reputable breeder would allow their bitch anywhere near a dog like that, so his male will only be used at stud to another BYB who owns a bitch or if he has one of his own.
Such a tragic shame.
by Bancroft on 25 September 2011 - 22:09
I still feel that Shtal should probably be concerned about the health of the progeny and follow that up. Oversized GSDs almost always end up sadly.
As to claims that the pups are suitable for schutzhund, well snowball's chance in hell, but I hope to be proven wrong of course.
Nothing against your religion. But I hate to see people deliberately causing pain and suffering to dogs due to poor breeding and ignorance. Surely as a religious person would feel the same.

by vonissk on 25 September 2011 - 23:09

by sueincc on 25 September 2011 - 23:09
Shtal stated in one of his first posts on this thread that "he had every right to breed his dog". Well guess what - we have every right to tell him exactly what we think of him breeding his dog. He's been down this road before, so he knew exactly what was coming down the pike, don't let him fool you, he started this shit storm.
by Donald Deluxe on 26 September 2011 - 00:09
And if this is really an experiment as he claims, then I'm sure he'll give any pups he doesn't keep away for free.
As for the Bible remarks, here's the difference between you and him: you don't do stupid or immoral stuff and then claim you're immune from scrutiny or get a free pass because you're a born-again Christian.
by VomMarischal on 26 September 2011 - 00:09
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