$100 entry fee for club trial? WTF??

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by Wolfinbok on 17 June 2010 - 17:06

Mystere,
That is the only picture of Jorg I could find, but I could show
a picture of me. I am lean and very muscular. My hair is blondish brown.
Only a couple of silver high lights.

I start working dogs today so I won't be doing any computer stuff. So now
is a good time to insult me or spread rumors. Or you could say what
a great guy I am. Or not.

Either way, I love you all, and have a great summer.

by Mystere on 17 June 2010 - 17:06

Have a good day, Wolfinbok!!

by steve1 on 17 June 2010 - 19:06

No sorry, Rinus does not judge Shows, He has not been home much of late he went to Canada, was home three days then to the the USA, was home 3 days again then went off to Malasiya, Home today i think early next month he is away again Canada or the USA, He is a busy Fellow
Goran has been waiting for him to give him his Arm, Rinus does a lot of the Helper work for Goran and Izzy
Steve1

by GSD4dogs on 23 June 2010 - 07:06

Having been involved in organizing several trials, $100 is not that unreasonable when you consider the costs involved. Most clubs loose money when hosting a trial. Why is it unfair to expect the exhibitor to pay their fair share of the expenses for their title?

WDA allows a maximum of 30 points per day. A schutzhund title is 3 points each so that is 10 dogs a day or a maximum of 30 schutzhund dogs for a three day trial for a maximum of $3,000. You will probably break even or even make a few dollars if you managed to get the 30 entries. However, the reality is that most schutzhund trials are one day or two day trials with fewer entries. Even at $100 an entry you would still lose money or at best break even.

This is a sport, not a necessity. If you can't afford to pay your fair share of the cost of your title, why should a club subsidize it for you?

by NoCurs on 23 June 2010 - 07:06

If you can't afford to pay your fair share of the cost of your title, why should a club subsidize it for you?

I don't think anyone is saying that if a club MUST charge $100 to break even, it should not. But our poor little club manages to put on trials with very little local support, and we bring in SV judges, even from Germany, and don't have to charge that much. (shrugs)

by sueincc on 23 June 2010 - 08:06

NoCurs that's nice, but what your club decides to charge for entry fees really has no bearing on what other clubs charge. There is no right or wrong here, just someone who wanted to bitch about nothing.

by steve1 on 23 June 2010 - 12:06

Sue
I feel so sorry for Rinus with all that travelling abroad, He comes home and says he is tired, and it is sad for him, He gets it from us when he tells us
Steve1

by malndobe on 23 June 2010 - 13:06

But our poor little club manages to put on trials with very little local support, and we bring in SV judges, even from Germany, and don't have to charge that much. (shrugs)

That may have something to do with your location. I remember when I was in the PNW, we could put on FR trials for 600-800. Here in S. CA, that's not happening. Not if you have to bring someone in from out of the area. Just the field rental alone for an event is going to be 4-600 depending on how many days you need it. Add in plane fare, food and hotel bill, etc and the club is at 1500 easily, if we have to bring in more then one person it's going over 2000 fast. I suspect the costs for a Sch trial are similar, possibly more since they may have to pay for tracking fields.

On the flip side, there are WAY more Sch trials in this area, so if someone doesn't like the 100.00 entry fee, there are plenty of other trials they can enter instead. That's the beauty of S CA, seems like there are Sch trials every other weekend through the spring/summer/fall.

by Mystere on 23 June 2010 - 16:06

Most clubs that are bringing in an SV judge from Germany share the judge with one or two other clubs, so they split the transportation costs from Germany. That airfare is the biggest "hit" the club takes, followed by housing the judge in a decent hotel/motel.

NoCurs, you had a trial a couple of weeks ago with a Canadian SV judge who could simply drive down I-5, so not quite the same thing.

You incurred the same costs as a club hosting a DVG, AWMA, Canadian or USA judge.

June 12, 2010

Western Washington Schutzhund Club

Club Trial, SchH - BH - FH

Fort Borst Park, Centralia WA 98531

SV Judge Douglas Deacon

Helper Dennis Welsh

Event Chair/Secretary Melody Hays

Phone: 360-560-8862

Email: mhrotti@yahoo.com

by NoCurs on 23 June 2010 - 16:06

Yes, and our trial before that had an SV judge from Germany. That's probably a little further back in your records! ; )

We did share the judge with another club. I guess the point is we are a "poorboy" club; folks who just want to train and title dogs... nothing more. So we do what it takes to put on trials that are easy on the pocket book. We don't do fancy do-dads for trophies and if we can, we house the judge in a home... just saying we try to keep it reasonable as most of us poor schmucks try to enter as many trials as we can, and times are tough. Even though USA has made it tough for those of us who like to support other clubs, we still don't lose money on our trials. We'll probably put on another this fall! : )

I agree that SoCal is a very different picture for prices, I'm sure. Thanks for pointing that out. Anywho, I thought it was an interesting discussion.

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