Inges vom Rauber Hotzenplotz attacks new owner - Page 8

If you get dogs like these (by that I mean our breed), and worry more about just seeing them bite things rather than developing a relationship and a bond with the dog, then a situation like this is really a given, isn't it? Dog is just doing what he obviously likes to do, and is a strong dog. Just because you feed a dog, and he obeys you for a reward, really doesn't necessarily mean he thinks you're his Master Above All. Obedience as it is commonly seen...the dog obeys for a reward, or because he has been 'shown who's boss'...is really not enough to create a strong bond with some (I would argue a lot of) dogs. We really should kid ourselves less with these animals and how we raise them.

I have been following this thread and now have time to write. I have seen Inges a few times when Tom Tainor got him,( maybe 2 plus years ago) the dog showed to have a stable temperment and was fine around people in a group setting. Never heard of Inges biting or being aggressive to Tom. Seen the dog take a few bites but never seen him in a trail setting. Bred my female to him but she lost the litter halfway through due to developing Pyo. I know Inges has been bred to another female but don't know the outcome of that litter.

I also wonder if the dog has had multiple owners since Tom sold him or if the present owner bought him directly from Tom and has had him ever since. I saw the video and I am sorry but I was not happy to see this type of training for this dog. Hanging form a tree and doing bitesuit work with an owner that looks to be doing nothing with this dog but only bitework. I would like to see the owner doing some obedience with this dog not just bitework. Just from watching the video the owner looks the type that should have a bullybreed at the end of a leash not a GSD. I do not blame the dog at all for doing what he did to his owner especially after watching that video. 

The main problem I see is Inges was sold to the wrong person and I put blame on the person who sold this dog to this peticular person. I am sure it was all about the money and not about finding the right handler for this dog. This guy  had the money and bam he now owns the dog with no regards on if this guy was the right handler for this specific dog. If he is sold I hope the owner takes the time to find the right handler.

Denise

I dunno but to me the videos look like a bunch of foolish teenagers showing off. I see bite, bite, bite and no control or OB. Dogs choked off, out, out, out. How many fucking times you gonna tell the dog to out dude? Now I know why the dog wont out. I could't quite "get " the whole dog in a tree thing. Really, this guy bought a nicely trained Sch3 dog and threw all of that to shit with his inability to control the dog himself, so out went the control part, dog doesn't need to heel anymore, the guy holds him by his collar and jacks him up, I don't even hear any bite comand given, he just lets the dog go. What a bunch of Yahoo's. The more video I watch, the sicker I feel for the dog.

This once highly respected dog is now reduced to a phallus extension, ghetto slum dog and will likely form a crappy rep once these videos circulate.

Even if you're training "just" for PP, IMO, it's 80% control and stability, 20% bitework.

Holy crap jettasmom, we must have posted real close, I didn't see your on there before I posted my last. About the tree hanging thing, I pulled a sentence about bulldogs I was goig to post and then you did. Spot on GIRL!

Jeff wrote,
Bonding means shit?    Without proper training.
It depends on what kind of dog your raising in my opinion.
But bonding means everything.   So does breeding.

A dog can bite me once, and only if I did something stupid.   But thats the kind of dog I raise.

A dog can be wound too tight in my opinion, bred that way.   If it bit you on Monday, it will bite you again on Saturday.
Some of you like this kind of dog, I understand why.  

Its not blaming the dog, but that played a part in the story I figure.   Mostly I think its the training, its missing important basic foundations.

To each his own I guess. 
Moons.



 

 

Too funny 4pack and I also agree this dog is being wasted with this guy but again goes to show you Inges was sold to someone who had the right amount money with no regards on what was best for the dog. Something that happens ALOT. Like they say "money talks"

Denise

What video??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNVsL86bxQM&feature=channel_page

This one