In Trump’s final days, a rush of federal executions - Page 7

Brady, the ones that scream loud are either religious people who never read the original testament that says, "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth", or, they are the new SJWs.
I doubt they have ever lost anyone in the manner you described or can allow themselves to feel the emotions or feelings from someone who has lost a person to this type of heinous crime.

You are very welcome, please stay safe and have a great holiday season. Mindhunt, I want to hear from you...tell me how you would feel if someone did that to your child or grandchild?

Are those figures for murder , violent crime or lesser crimes ?

Very true HD . Wishing you and your loved ones a safe and very happy Christmas .

Brady Bee I believe that is for all crime.

Those are shocking figures. I believe if someone is sentenced to x amount of years , then that is what they should serve. In the case of severe violence /murder I don't believe they will change no matter how much time and effort is spent trying to 'counsel' . If a human being can inflict such pain and violence onto another human being, it's there inside them and can never be erased. It may take years and years for it to surface again, but it will. So either they stay behind bars for life or they lose that life. It's plain and simple to me. If that makes me appear uncaring or unforgiving then so be it. I can forgive many things but not that.

Hired Dog, thanks for the clarification of your practice, always learning. As for eye-witness testimony, notoriously inaccurate as there are so many ways to manipulate (even inadvertently) recall. Video can be manipulated and depending on angles, not always telling the whole story. As for forensics, we now have the technology to synthesize DNA and if I could get an infinitesimal amount of yours, I could plant your DNA anywhere I wanted and in any quantity I wanted, it takes a lab to tell the difference between real DNA and synthesized but only if the lab is looking for the difference which most are not as it is expensive. Confessions can be coerced and some give confessions for other reasons, such as the notoriety. Until the court system is such that is does not make mistakes, I am against the death penalty. Besides the death penalty is an easy out, life in prison without the possibility of parole, now that is a hard road to travel. When I was at a forensic psychology practice, I worked with those incarcerated for violent crimes including killing (competency for trial, neuropsychological assessments, etc.) and all agree, death penalty is an easy out as it is an end to the horrors of prison life, they HATE prison.

Brady Bee, I am so very sorry for what you have gone through and what happened to your daughter. How the perpetrator could have gotten such a light sentence for such a heinous crime is astounding. He should be in prison for LIFE without the possibility of parole.  I can't imagine your pain and I wish I had the words to ease it even a little bit.

I do not understand the logic behind giving a man a 60-year sentence for bank robbery ... but then only something in the teens for taking a life. Says something about relative values in societies; property is clearly much more important than someone's son or daughter, it seems.

Its also partly that obscene prioritising that holds me to my views.

Mindhunt, if we are looking for excuses to save people from the death penalty, we can find many. I understand that this can be manipulated or that can be planted, but, if we follow your example, we could not even convict anyone, never mind give them the death penalty.
I agree with you, sometimes, for some people, death is the easy way out and I said as much in my statement that I do not like the way the State does executions. I said that you need to die in the exact same way and manner that your victim died. At the end of the day, I will believe what I believe and you will believe what you do and that is fine.

Hired Dog, I guess I always remember what my son said back in elementary school right after a terrorist attack against a school.  The class was asked how they feel about it (both his stepfather and I were firefighter/paramedics with terrorism response training so he has some strong feelings).  Many classmates were talking about what to do with the perpetrators. My son spoke up and said, "we have to remember the difference between justice and revenge."  His teacher asked him to explain.  "Justice is punishing someone to teach them their behaviors were not right and once they learn, really learn, they can't do bad and their punishment is over, they can rejoin society.  Revenge is where they are punished just to make society feel better with no intention of teaching them or having them rejoin society.  It is useless except to make the punishers feel better." 

Mindhunt, I am one of those who wants to see the punishment be equal to what the perpetrators did. Some will call it revenge, some will call it by other names, but, you do NOT walk into a school, execute 30 children and 5 adults and you get "punished" so that one day you may rejoin society, not in my Universe.
In my Universe you get to die just like your victims died, in the exact same manner, feeling the exact same terror hopefully, that they did and yes, for sure I would feel better, but, dont take my word, ask the parents of the kids who died...see how they really feel off camera.