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by beetree on 16 October 2016 - 17:10
I would have thought you would be against someone else making decisions for you, and especially in a way to fool you, so that you never knew you never had a choice. Ask Bernie for details if you still don't get it.
Now, don't get too fretful and think that Hillary might actually lose. It doesn't seem likely at this point. But if you watched Face the Nation this morning, well, winning and governing aren't the same thing. She'll hit that wall of a humongous problem, looming large on her ill-begotten horizon. It is true what is said, the emails confirm it--- Hillary has no core, there is only rancor and dishonesty when she is left without a taylor made script of actions and reactions. Talk about sad! When to smile or even what is a joke!
The only thing left to ponder if one is a Dem, is if Michele gets her turn after Hillary fails miserably in four years, or with more party machine magic, manages to do a full stretch of eight years? New candidates should not waste their time or the time of Dems omnipresence's scheming, for that matter, as the Wikileaks emails make that crystal clear.
The Obama's stumping so hard these days are them paying up on their promise to Hillary that she'd get her turn. Hillary will do a repeat favor. Who comes after Michele? Hmmm, Chelsea? Now, wouldn't that be a hoot!
Oh and no, Trump doesn't plan for much at all. He's too narcissistic for that. The fact the Republicans fielded so many early candidates is proof enough that there wasn't a plan to game the voters. Nope, the Dems got the jump on that and have all the voting systems gamed up, nice and tight.

by Hundmutter on 16 October 2016 - 17:10
Trying too hard ? Nah; no effort required, Bee.
Admin, I too would like to know what Hillary's actual misdeeds are ? Everything that's been levelled at her seems (either a fault of her old man's, or) some manouvreing over a political position that is simply being regarded as 'bad' by Enema because it relates to policy HE and his like-minded souls - those few still with him - don't agree with. IE, simply a matter for political debate. Not 'immoral' or anything like that. Believe me, I won't disbelieve it if anything in those e mails turns out to prove something that really IS criminal or offensive, I am far from Clinton's greatest fan; but I certainly would always prefer the lesser of two evils.
by Noitsyou on 16 October 2016 - 17:10
This election has exposed a sad combination of naivete and tribalism. Everything Hillary has allegedly done is worse than any other politician ever. She is the MOST corrupt ever. If we start with Obama, you have all those crying about how he gave Iran money and it's an act of treason. Their god Reagan had Iran-Contra but how many of them will call him a traitor? The truth is that when you combine Iran-Contra with the drug war Reagan did far more damage to America as he set the mass incarceration rate we have in motion. That money Iran got won't hurt us in any comparable way.
They say Hillary is a murderer who killed Americans in Benghazi. Does anyone believe that she deliberately wanted those people to die? Maybe there's a case for negligence, but murder? Reagan sent Marines to Beirut and 241 were later killed by a truck bomb. They were vulnerable to attack and the barracks guards were not allowed to keep their weapons loaded. Does that make Reagan a murderer? Then you have GWB invading Iraq based on lies which resulted in the death of thousands of Americans and Iraqis. Is he a murderer? If Trump is president is he going to lock GWB up?
They bring up the emails and Fox news is focusing on them a lot but has yet to show anything illegal. All we see is typical politics and it's naive to think that it is something exclusive to one party or one candidate. Nixon actually broke the law yet Hillary is some arch criminal. Hillary is worse.
Then you have Trump who used insinuations and rumor, "I'm hearing...," and references to the Enquirer when attacking the other republican candidates during the primaries. He brought the dialogue to that level. Now it's coming back to haunt him and suddenly the system is rigged. If it were so rigged then how did he get this far when we know the GOP did not want him? He's a crybaby. He made these issues relevant. He created a tabloid election process.
by beetree on 16 October 2016 - 17:10
by Noitsyou on 16 October 2016 - 18:10

by Hundmutter on 16 October 2016 - 19:10
Since I am not actually accusing Beetree of being prepared to vote Trump, as she maintains she may not be pigeon-holed as automatically intending to do so, whatever Admin or others surmise, I fail to see why who I would actually vote for - if I had one,pretend or otherwise, - has anything to do with her & her opinion of Hillary. Presumably I am still allowed to hold opinions on Trump and ask questions about him, and the support for him - or are we back to having to prove to Queen Bee we are worthy of being able to post anything on here ??????????????

by Hundmutter on 16 October 2016 - 19:10
by beetree on 16 October 2016 - 19:10
And no where do I suggest who, how or when people should post on here.
by Noitsyou on 16 October 2016 - 20:10

by GSD Admin on 17 October 2016 - 02:10
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