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mollyandjack

by mollyandjack on 09 January 2014 - 11:01

LOL... I'll let someone else find them, they are so easy to find because there are so many of those publications about singular hairless lines on the head present from birth.

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 09 January 2014 - 11:01

I should've picked that one up at the counter at the bank the other day. Or was it McDonald's? 

Seriously, though, I'm going to take some updated pics of him, hopefully today. Maybe some video. 

I really hope Dreamworks posts back w/pics and pedigree- I'm dying to see what a pup that age w/CDA looks like, though I hope it was actually CDA and not another more serious issue, as she mentioned a heart problem, too. Yikes- double whammy. I can't find much about CDA and other problems- it seems to be a cosmetic issue almost exclusively. 

mollyandjack

by mollyandjack on 09 January 2014 - 11:01

I also haven't found anything linking the dilute genes in GSDs with health problems. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen, but I can't personally find any evidence of it in the studies I've seen. There seems to be other forms of follicular dysplasia (some of which are associated with health issues as well) that may present differently from CDA, and CDA in other breeds seems to be associated with some potential health issues, but they don't describe them in any way that fits this little guy with his reverse mohawk, at least not at this point in time ;-)

(I know people are seeing a blue dog and wanting to say CDA, but I'm just not seeing evidence of that in a singular, unchanging line)

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 09 January 2014 - 12:01

That's why I'm curious about Dreamworks' dog- was it a GSD? I, too, have been unable to find significant findings pertaining to health problems and dilution genes in the GSD.

kitkat3478

by kitkat3478 on 09 January 2014 - 13:01

I too would ove to see It.
    I find It funny, that there are SO FEW PICS of German Shepherds with Alopecia available, but some of the other breeds have many.
Is it that those dogs are really NOT that many, (the german Shepherds), or could it even be possible that the skin problems ARE NOT truly alopecia.
    I have been researching blue shepherds, and blue dogs in general, for several years. I have first hand experience with those that have "gone bald" yorkies, and those that have never had skin or hair issues, shepherds and dobermans.
    No where have I seen or read of alopecia presenting  at birth...
    I recently  found a very good article on blue labradors, where foes of the  color have been totally dishonest.
    I will put It up.

kitkat3478

by kitkat3478 on 09 January 2014 - 13:01

My yorkie did not lose her hair until almost one year old.
There are many dog breeds that come in blue, that have NO skin/hair issues.
I myself don't believe that the crease on jenns dog head has anything to do with alopecia.
I think he was just lucky enough to be chosen to bring light on the whole blue german shepherd issue

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 09 January 2014 - 13:01

Well, there are types of alopecia that have nothing to do with color- more than those that do, actually. Mollyandjack pointed out a good article. Parasites, bacterial and viral infections (which he had), congenital issues during formation of follicles in certain areas, etc. can all cause alopecia. Could that thing they got at 2 weeks be behind this? Was it lurking for a while before causing symptoms? Could he have not formed hair in places where there was inflammation? His throat where the swelling was is also very thin (and so is everyone else's, black and tan and sable too!). He had a lot of inflammation- was it enough to ruin those early follicles?  I did see a litter of GSD pups born with tiny bald circles on their heads. I don't remember what it was, but I think it went away when they got their adult coats- just a weird in-utero occurrence, maybe. He's starting to get more hair in which makes his ears and part look even balder, as the other stuff fills in. Hopefully, it'll fill in like Margaret guessed and it'll just look like a cowlick or scar. 



 

Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 09 January 2014 - 13:01

Kitkat, I had a so-called silver lab come in for boarding awhile back.

This dog looked no more like a lab than a pit bull does!  Everything about her: her head shape, ear length and carriage, her very upright pasterns, her eye colour screamed "weimaraner cross!"

I'm afraid I sort of ticked off the owner with my comments about her ancestry, as she was actually sold to them with a 3 generation CKC pedigree.

I did look up the silver labs after they left, and they are a legitimate colour, but I still feel this dog could not have been a purebred lab, and that they had been taken for a ride by an unscrupulous breeder.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Weimaraner_Freika-2.jpg

http://www.woodhavenlabs.com/silverlabs.html

http://www.silverlabs.com/controversy.htm

kitkat3478

by kitkat3478 on 09 January 2014 - 14:01

Jennis  I'm afraid dreamworks bs Is just that, BS...joined just in time to chIme in on the mess of a blue shepherd...
and SS, just as with any breed, purebred or not...some dogs look like hell...and, in every breed, there are breeders that are more than willing to take a buyer for a ride.
    I have to warm up my beastly Dell, to post the articles I have, one SS goes right along with what you just posted.

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 09 January 2014 - 14:01

It's entirely possible Dreamworks had a dog like that. It could've been a Dobe, with cardiomyopathy, unrelated to being blue, or any number of other things. If it was a GSD, I want to see the pics and the pedigree. I think pedigrees, when known, should be posted along with stories like that, SO LONG AS THEY'RE TRUE and not made up to hurt someone. 





 


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