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by Slamdunc on 18 November 2012 - 04:11
Remember dogs think in Black & White...NO Gray areas... ... ...I think people over-think what dogs are thinking about...In short dogs and their training isn't Brain Surgery...
Ain't that the truth!
Ain't that the truth!

by gagsd4 on 18 November 2012 - 13:11
Jim I think our difference is in definition. I have met dogs that were great working dogs..... just a touch, well, touched. Not completely "sane." (using sane in my understanding).

by Slamdunc on 19 November 2012 - 00:11
gagsd4,
I have met many SL dogs, mutts, WL and ASL dogs that were not completely "sane" or had poor or weak temperaments or just plain nerve bags. I still don't think that all dogs that won't allow kids to pet them are "insane" or "touched." Not every working dog is a GSD in poodle fur, some are very strong, very sane and do not want to be bothered by strangers.
I will say that dogs should not show inappropriate aggression to children for no reason. But, a dog that doesn't want to be handled, groped, hugged or hung on by strange unruly kids is not necessarily "touched."
I have met many SL dogs, mutts, WL and ASL dogs that were not completely "sane" or had poor or weak temperaments or just plain nerve bags. I still don't think that all dogs that won't allow kids to pet them are "insane" or "touched." Not every working dog is a GSD in poodle fur, some are very strong, very sane and do not want to be bothered by strangers.
I will say that dogs should not show inappropriate aggression to children for no reason. But, a dog that doesn't want to be handled, groped, hugged or hung on by strange unruly kids is not necessarily "touched."

by Keith Grossman on 19 November 2012 - 00:11
"Keith, yes, I got my dog from Nate."
Good choice, in my opinion. I like what I am seeing from his dogs' work and my overall impression of his breeding program is one of consistency.
Good choice, in my opinion. I like what I am seeing from his dogs' work and my overall impression of his breeding program is one of consistency.
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