Lane Shepherds is a crook - Page 7

She just did it assbackwards. Ask for the video, view the dog, THEN send the deposit.   (After you've done your homework and checked out 100 other breeders first.)

I guess that whole not posting another email under the threat of disciplinary action just went right over someone's head...
Sounds to me like neither one is a paragon of virtue and truth. A deposit is nonfundable so legally he doesn't have to. Ethically, he should if it all took place in a short period of time. A deposit is a good faith token that you are buying the pup and tells the breeder that you are serious so they aren't losing out if others want to buy the pup and he has to tell them no. If this all happened within a week then he wasn't really out anything. But she shouldn't have come on here making accusations then backpedaling under the guise of not remembering correctly. If you can't feel the difference between a $600 loss and a $3000 one then money must not be an object to you. Pretty big difference there and IMO she lost all credibility with that "mistake".

So flog them both and lets move on.

Yep I agree!

...well...the only good thing i see is that future buyers will think twice before contacting Lane S.....

Smiley's e mails are actually really nice, mine would have been 10 x more demanding if I paid 600 in deposit...and hell yeah for that much of a deposit i would EXPECT my own 60 SECONDS video of my future dog...along with photos from every angle...

It just boggles my mind that some people have a nerve to treat their future customers like this, most breeders would have been happy to know that future owner of their dog is so picky, demanding because you know if anything goes wrong that future owner will never settle for second best care or trainer for their dog...LaneS should have been glad,  instead decided to counter attack with character deformation..oh please, you single handedly did that to yourself on here...

Well said LadyFrost. I agree with Red Sable that the order of events should have been reversed, i.e. request the video before the deposit. However, her request was not unreasonable. But regardless of whether Lane's actions were unreasonable he has certainly shown through his posts his lack of professionalism. My breeder has my loyalty, and repeat business because of her professinalism and her willingness to work with her customers.  I know of situations were she has refunded deposits even though it clearly says on her website that deposits are non-refundable. She wants to be fair and understands that things happen and the most important thing is the wellfair of her pups. Lastly, she sent videos and pictures, without being asked, of all of the pups from the time they were born until I picked him up. It really isn't a lot to ask.

Well said frost and GSD and RED!

Well I sent the link to this thread to my friend in the US. Originally she said she'd make up her own mind after contacting Lane. However, I've not long since come off the phone and she's follwoed the thread. As a result of his own criticism of a potential buyer, lack of professionalism, so on and so forth, she'll be sourcing her straight backed GSD from elsewhere.

Nothing to do with defamation of character. He's lost the business purely based on his own attitude. What a way to do busines!

Lane Shepherds should refund the $600 deposit.  However, Smiley should not have mislead everyone with her opening post:

"I sent him $3000 for a puppy. He said I had to send the whole amount to reserve a puppy."

Pretty interesting thread... and amusing at times. 

Smiley:
Never send money if you want something more (like stills of vid's of the thing you are buying).  IMO buying something like a dog sight unseen is not a good way to do business.. but that is only my opinion.  I would not buy a dog without seeing the dog or the kennel and the owner.  But that is just me. 

Also, READ THE CONTRACT b4 you send money.  Some have non refundable deposits unless the dog in question is sold to someone else.  Some have no room for "buyer's remorse."

LaneShepherds:
From your posts I think money is the object of your breeding.  Breeding should have the object of improving the breed IMO.  You cannot title your dogs due to their size and they certainly cannot be entered in the SV for both those reasons (no titles and size).  I did not see OFA's or Penn Hip on the dogs you have on your website. 

I suggest an honest way to handle deposits would be to refund a deposit if the dog in question was sold to someone else.  I also recommend you check your posts and your site for spelling errors.  It is Defamation of Character.  Deformation of character implies something quite different...... 

Smiley and LaneShepherds....

I suggest you both revist how you do business. 

Ever notice how the BIG PICTURE changes after you hear the 2nd half of the story?

Seems like almost every dispute on this board changed after the 2nd person posted their side of the story.

I'm not siding with Lane Shepherds, personally I wouldn't buy one of his dogs. But the dollar amount sure changed from $3,000.00 to $600.00.

I'm sure we still haven't heard it all. LOL