Female handlers weakening the breed?!? - Page 7

The handler's gender has little to do with a dog's ability to work. 

Ability to work is based in balanced drives.   This means the combat drives of fight, prey, defense and hunt are balanced in a dog.. and the dog is inherently confident as a result of balanced drives. 

Most of the so-called hard dogs are not really hard.. they are over the top in prey drive and haven't adequate fight drive. 

I owned such a dog with balanced drives and really did not know it at the time.  I was the owner/operator of a dairy farm and this dog herded cattle which were highly uncooperative at times (the young stock and the beef stock especially so).  She worked as a partner.. and she would switch drives while working.  You could see it.  She loved the fight but because her drives were balanced and were satisfied through direction from me, she was also 100% obedient.  doG help the bull or steer that elected to cross the line as she would kick into fight drive and settle things up in an instant.. yet if I told her to get off she did instantly as well. 

She was not afraid to take on a human as well and there was not a moment of hesitation when she did.  She would hit a person in the middle of the back and knock them down (she was a large dog) and then stand over them and stare.. like "Want more of this?  Bring it on!"  

This dog had to do real work every day of her life.. and I think that is where the issues come in with today's dogs and breeding.  The dogs are bred for sport and no longer do the majority do real work, be it herding large flocks or herds or as working K9's or guide dogs and so forth.  If they were, balanced drives would be more common. 

If you need to get all over a dog to get obedience you are either a poor handler/trainer or you have a dog that is weak in one of his or her drives.  NOTHING to do with the gender of the handler. 

Just my opinion.  Carry on.  I have to go an work my dogs. 







   

The last think I thought I would see was a woman come onto this thread and make the statements that susie has done.  Women not born of the U.S. seem to show less of the "us versus them" mentality.

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Come on quit trying to "pretend" your as tallented as the girl with Jr Mint, who actually did do it herself.

Elizabeth had Minty less than a year, and got her MROB with jumps, and her MR1.

I know you don't want to hear this, but I am the one that taught her Mondio. She has done such a great job ! Also, it is just her and Sarah 98% of the time. Meanwhile, you have no titles on your dogs, because you have no one to train your dog for you so you can come on here and run off at the mouth. The girls went out and did it themselves !

You see, that is what someone who actually is a talented dog trainer does. They like something so they go out and train the dog to do it themselves. Unlike you, who cannot train a dog without help from training directors and decoys, and boyfriends (how Michelles dogs really were able to do anything)

Here is a video of MINT ! ! ! ! ! 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFd3-bOmMyw

Here he is actually getting a title in a internationally recognized sport

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=1Fy4ehvINGU

Such a good boy !

Elizabeth and Sarah, went out on their own and did such a nice job. You know, like someone who is a dog trainer, and not a hanger on, actually can do.

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If you need to get all over a dog to get obedience you are either a poor handler/trainer or you have a dog that is weak in one of his or her drives.  NOTHING to do with the gender of the handler.

Really missed the point of this thread.

Really missed the point of this thread...LMAO. Your 2 last posts just did that, you attack me to get yourself out of the line of fire, yet you also proved a woman can handle a dog. Me, my dog and my handling experience are notthe point here. I'm not breeding, so I am not weakening the breed. I own 1 dog currently and don't have the time to play with dogs anymore. My work here is done.

MY belief is a good animal, whether it be a dog, horse or whatever, makes a good trainer!!

I competed, on a professional level, in a very aggressive man's sport! I was able to compete against a man due to the animal making up for the power difference. This in my opinion, that is what it is all about, the excellent animal! "THE ONE" as some people call them!


Cheers!

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yet you also proved a woman can handle a dog

Uh, talk about no getting it. Females cannot handle strong dogs. Never said dogs.

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Your 2 last posts just did that, you attack me to get yourself out of the line of fire,

No, I am not attacking you. It is not an attack when it is the truth. Anyone who has been in a club knows who you are, you are the decoys GF. Hell, you should hear how the others talked about you on the other board. They called you Rosanne Barr. Said you were loud like her, but not as witty, but annoying and abusive to your dog.

More than one person has pointed that out to me, and then they said some things that were not as nice as that about your inability to train a dog. Abusive. They said you were abusive like 15 times in one post. You must really be naughty.

So, here you are the decoys GF without a decoy to teach your dog, and you are convienently "not able to train" which was true in more than one sense.

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My work here is done.

And I thank you for giving me the opportunity to point out the fact that you are not a dog trainer, never have been, have done nothing with the breed worth anything, and were in fact, just the decoys GF.

All in all it has been a good session. Maybe next time someone is looking for a dog, they will take this information and find someone that actually does know what to look for in a dog. HA HA

Uh one more thing...isn't Minty out of Buko?

I never claimed to be a "trainer". A trainer takes money and trains other dogs, I handle my own. I must really get around because I have used allot of different decoys over the years.




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Sirius Black

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I never claimed to be a "trainer" .

Hundreds, maybe thousands of posts say otherwise. YOU consider yourself a trainer, untill someone that knows what they are doing shows up and points out that you are definately NOT a dog trainer.