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Sue B

by Sue B on 18 October 2008 - 15:10

Paul , like you I too have been fortunate in that respect and I am forever grateful to many very good friends and also those sincere gsd enthusiasts who have taken my dogs in be it out of friendship, to help me out or for the sheer enjoyment of handling the breed, for without them I certainly would not have been able to continue to exhibit. For no way could, nor would I even consider paying the ridiculous fee's some are asking for. I would just stop exhibiting altogether and perhaps that is why some have already had to stop exhibiting. Which is why I had to mention it even though it hasnt yet particulary applied to myself, I have never been one of the, "I'm alright Jack brigade" and  I know of many it has and still does apply to which is one of the added expences some just cannot afford to pay.

Best Regards

Sue


Sue B

by Sue B on 18 October 2008 - 15:10

David, I completely take your point re - sycophantic public compliments and couldnt agree more. But let them continue to be happy fooling no-one but each other, they say ignorance is bliss !

Regards

Sue


by patrick on 18 October 2008 - 17:10

Sue, I expected a response like you'rs but not from you! I did'nt say all important decision making should be taken away from clubs, but key area's which will stop one of the biggest problems that many exibiters moan about corrupt and bent judging.  Dont blame judges, It's committees who put them in to these situations. This breed has been treading water for over 10 years, people will not accept change, and are lost in a sea of fog wondering which way to swim. 10 years ago people talked about bringing in trainers, developing trainers to bring us in line with Europe. People tell me it will take upto 12 months to train a dog to Sch 1 with upto 4-5 days training sessions a week. What training clubs have is 1 day a week ringcraft, which is where people run their dog around a few times and retire to the pub. Thats how it has been, and how it will stay. People dont like change, and as Dave said, this must be run like its going bankrupt, and must get back to the dog wagging the tail. I have listened to club secetaries moaning about other clubs trying to pinch show dates etc and they wont be told when they will have thier show date. So unless clubs accept some radical change and see changes as oportunities, they will carry on treading water for the next 10 years. By then there wont be enough clubs to organise 1 committee. So Sue, who is going to throw the life line into that swirling sea of fog.  regards Bill.


Videx

by Videx on 18 October 2008 - 17:10

Having been on a Breed Club committee, TWICE, I have to say the "workload' for most committee members is 'minimal' to say the least. A Championship Show every couple or three years, and WOW! they are expected to set up & take down, and clear some litter and crap up. The odd, but much rarer Open Show and much the same. The Chairman of a major Club, if doing his job thoroughly, and the same for the secretary, they do more Work, but NOT an onerous amount. I work much harder on my website, and articles, suggestions, proposals, helping people with very difficult problems, and responding to many emails from around the World. The committee of Essington GSD Club work harder than most committee members of KC Licensed GSD Clubs, holding a TRAINING night on a WEEKLY basis, and setting up the ring, taking it down, doing the 'centre ring training in rotation etc etc. EVERY WEEK. 

I KNOW, I HAVE BEEN THERE, RE-WRITTEN THE GSD LEAGUE RULE BOOK, (previous 'notable' Councils had failed to include numerous KC compulsory rules) STOPPED OTHER GSD BREED CLUBS FROM 'STEALING' THE TWO DAY SHOW, COMMUNICATED WITH THE KENNEL CLUB ON ALMOST A WEEKLY BASIS, HELD NUMEROUS EGM'S, STEERING A PROGRAMME TO SUCCEED, AND CHAIRED A COUNCIL WHICH FOUGHT AND SAVED THE KC LICENSE FOR THE OLDEST GSD CLUB IN THE UK. THEREFORE "SAVING" THE OLDEST GSD CLUB, YES! THE GSD LEAGUE. That was in 1997, and I still believe the Council I was chairman of, was one of the finest I have been involved with. Sadly a family issue, led to my resignation.

I later returned to the GSD League Council, and almost single handed, I brought the then beleagured BSA into the fold of the GSD League. I am justly proud of their progress and their achievements within the GSD League since then. Stormy? YES!, Difficult? YES! Successful? Definitely!

I have been there, done that, and worn the T shirt. I spent 25 years on real life changing committees, dealing with huge challenges, and I led many, dealing with issues in the millions and in the billions, affecting thousands of people and sometimes individuals. Both very important, "the many and the few". I need NO needling from anyone, and I certainly need NO lectures either. I have an intolerance of tossers, so be very careful Paddl. My not inconsiderable resources and connections could be put on your track.


jaymesie51

by jaymesie51 on 18 October 2008 - 18:10

i will make a sugestion lets reduce the amount of classes at our shows (with kc approval of course) why not puppy 6mths to 12mths junior 12mths to 18 mths yearling 18mths to 24 mths and open for 2years and over and we could have a working open for all titled dogs and all dogs must graded  so there would be no novice maiden grad post grad mid limit- limit etc might not increase entries to start with but should mean bigger classes especially the dog classes and might end this red card mentality  and for all judges to explain their placings (verbal critique) why dog 1 was 1st etc

jim h


Sue B

by Sue B on 18 October 2008 - 22:10

David, I have obviously missed reading something here, did I? Can only think some message appeared which was then deleted before I came back on and had chance to read it, otherwise I fail to see the reason for your outburst.

Bill, I said it because I knew that is exactly what some others would be thinking but would never say it and that my friend is  another part of our problem. You cant treat an illness if the patients are too frightened to admit to the symptoms.

Regards

Sue 


Sophie

by Sophie on 19 October 2008 - 09:10

Gentlemen gentlemen have you all not read what you have so far writen ME ME ME that is precisely what is wrong with the UK show scene. There is no us!


Videx

by Videx on 19 October 2008 - 10:10

Carol, if only it were so simple - the days of it being a simple problem are long past. There is no medicine to cure our Show Scene, some medicine's might make some of us feel a little better for a little while, however what is now needed is major surgery. Otherwise the patient will die! We desperately need to tackle the re-allocation of CC's, along with ensuring there is a TOP GSD Breed Club Championship Show EVERY MONTH of the year.

If the Clubs under the banner of the GSD Breed Council cannot do it, the major clubs should make a joint approach to the Kennel Club directly.

The TOP 12 GSD Breed Clubs in the UK attracted almost half of all entries for the 33 breed clubs over the last 12 years. It is very likely that they will exceed half of all entries very soon.
These clubs hold the Keys to the future of our show scene. They also hold the responsibility for it.

Bolton GSD Club is number SEVEN in the TOP 12


Linda B

by Linda B on 20 October 2008 - 22:10

Beepy  found this photo of me and my dogs on our daily walks.


Linda B

by Linda B on 20 October 2008 - 22:10

HI Beepy

here is another photo 0f my dogs enjoying there daily walk

Linda B






 


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