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by susie on 20 January 2015 - 20:01
Adhahn, I don´t know you, but I like you. You like the old Busecker Schloss dogs, or is this just coincidence
by vk4gsd on 20 January 2015 - 20:01
"So-called WL breeders who focus on reproducing extremes or specific traits at the expense of ballance have more in common with (some) SL breeders that they (or thier customers) will admit. "
in the modern context i would have to agree, dogs bred for the podium are dogs bred for the podium.....choose yr target market.
having said that i think the extreme sport dog is a more verstaile and capable dog than the extreme show dog and better reflects the intention of the breed.
the breed is being pulled in polar oppositte directions, the golden middle is lost in the process and the GSD becomes unrecognisable.
by adhahn on 20 January 2015 - 20:01
Susie- I enjoy training and working with dogs, either I take a liking to the dog in front of me or not. Pedigrees and breeding are interesting but I know little about them compared to folks who have paid their dues learning. (hence one of the reasons I follow threads like this).
I think the favorite GSD I've worked with that I actually knew about the pedigree was a Kirschental (sp?).

by susie on 20 January 2015 - 20:01
Correct spelling
Interestingly Karl Füller recruited most of his breeding stock out of 100% showlines.
It´s always about the dogs and their character, at least for simple handlers (like me), no matter about their great great grandfathers.
by joanro on 20 January 2015 - 21:01
by Mackenzie on 20 January 2015 - 21:01
Adhan - I do understand and accept that the bite work is an important aspect of character assessment but not at the total expense of all the other aspects of character.
As a matter of interest to you I have a five year old female from Kirschental.
Mackenzie
by adhahn on 20 January 2015 - 21:01
That dog stands out because he was a willing worker, tollerant of handler mistakes without loosing drive or becoming handler agressive, had good prey that made motivational training a breeze, was stable and patient with people of all ages but was also capable of civil work.

by yogidog on 20 January 2015 - 21:01
VKyou said a while back that your dog s bite work revolves around pray drive so it could b said that you have more in common with showline yourself .Thats why your post are full of crap u dont under stand what u have mabey if you spent more time around different dog seen how they work you might have a better grasp the only thing is real dog people wont tolerate what u have to offer .iv many people in lots of club that soon relise their only in the way of progress .

by susie on 20 January 2015 - 21:01
Mac, as Adhahn said, a lot of dogs and breeds are able to do obedience, flyball, agility, scent work, even herding, but only some breeds are able to do bitework, too, and that´s (at least for me ) the difference.

by susie on 20 January 2015 - 21:01
Yogi, all of us should be in the way of progress all the time.
Thinking about the kind of training and health tests 30 years ago and today, I´m glad we are in the way of progress...
and we should move on.
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