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by Slamdunc on 19 April 2013 - 14:04
Moons,
This is just not my favorite place to discuss LE related topics. You've been around long enough and know exactly what I mean. As you said, "I just don't want to go there." Feel free to discuss it, you don't need my input.
Yes, if Marijuana is legalized a lot of dogs will need to be re trained and proofed off that odor.
This is just not my favorite place to discuss LE related topics. You've been around long enough and know exactly what I mean. As you said, "I just don't want to go there." Feel free to discuss it, you don't need my input.
Yes, if Marijuana is legalized a lot of dogs will need to be re trained and proofed off that odor.
by Two Moons on 19 April 2013 - 15:04
Can't say I didn't see that coming.....
I think the whole topic of proofing and what other standards are excepted would be a good topic, plus the human factor since the dogs are trained and not acting alone using only their own judgement without human control.
It's easy to see a situation being manipulated, it's not out of the question.
No matter,
I understand you hesitation.
I think the whole topic of proofing and what other standards are excepted would be a good topic, plus the human factor since the dogs are trained and not acting alone using only their own judgement without human control.
It's easy to see a situation being manipulated, it's not out of the question.
No matter,
I understand you hesitation.
by Micaho on 19 April 2013 - 18:04
Jim,
Thanks for your very helpful answer. Didn't mean to put you on the spot, and did consider the pm, but thought it might be more intrusive Will know in the future if I have a specific question which format you prefer.
Stay safe.
Thanks for your very helpful answer. Didn't mean to put you on the spot, and did consider the pm, but thought it might be more intrusive Will know in the future if I have a specific question which format you prefer.
Stay safe.
by Mindhunt on 19 April 2013 - 19:04
"A person charged with Domestic violence is required to turn in their guns, that is the law! A person convicted of domestic violence no longer has the right to own firearms. "
Slamdunc, unfortunately the conviction of domestic violence doesn't necessarily result in the loss of guns or permit to purchase, it depends on how each state enforces it (my point that all guns laws are not enforced equally so what makes me think more gun laws will work).
My ex-husband was convicted of domestic assault against me (hence EX). He is a licensed firearms dealer and never lost his guns, his permit to purchase, or his firearms dealer's license. He is still in business today and believe me I had a PPO against him and tried desperately to get his permits revoked without luck (my ex's family had $$$).
Slamdunc, unfortunately the conviction of domestic violence doesn't necessarily result in the loss of guns or permit to purchase, it depends on how each state enforces it (my point that all guns laws are not enforced equally so what makes me think more gun laws will work).
My ex-husband was convicted of domestic assault against me (hence EX). He is a licensed firearms dealer and never lost his guns, his permit to purchase, or his firearms dealer's license. He is still in business today and believe me I had a PPO against him and tried desperately to get his permits revoked without luck (my ex's family had $$$).
by Slamdunc on 19 April 2013 - 19:04
Mindhunt,
I'm glad your ok and he is now your ex. You are fortunate. California has been very successful with this type of program. Any one with a PPO against them shouldn't have a firearm. Sorry, you couldn't get his permit revoked. I know where I am we are so overwhelmed that no one takes the initiative or has the time to check this stuff as they should. I'm going to give it a shot and see how it works out. I can only work with my City and State laws. You might want to check this link out:
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/misdemeanor-domestic-violence.html
I'd probably contact the ATF.
I'm glad your ok and he is now your ex. You are fortunate. California has been very successful with this type of program. Any one with a PPO against them shouldn't have a firearm. Sorry, you couldn't get his permit revoked. I know where I am we are so overwhelmed that no one takes the initiative or has the time to check this stuff as they should. I'm going to give it a shot and see how it works out. I can only work with my City and State laws. You might want to check this link out:
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/misdemeanor-domestic-violence.html
I'd probably contact the ATF.
by Mindhunt on 19 April 2013 - 20:04
Slamdunc, contacted ATF but no luck, it is up to the local jurisdiction. But that was years ago and he broke in once more, instead of calling, I went after him with a baseball bat, I caught him off guard otherwise I am sure I would not be here today as he entered with a gun (he is 6'4"). As a FF/Medic, I went on plenty of domestic calls with the officers and I can't count the number of times the victim (usually a woman) would go after the officer handcuffing the man that just beat the crap out of her. I understand the mind set behind their behavior (understanding and empathy does not equal acceptance or condoning of the behavior) and I understand the reluctance of many officers of going on a domestic call. I am currently working in a forensic setting assessing competency for trial and many of them are violent offenders (doctoral candidate in Clinical Psych), but the ones that give me nightmares are few the cool, calm, malevolent ones I've had that just smile at me. They make make me glad I have my gun and dogs........
by Slamdunc on 20 April 2013 - 11:04
If he has a FFL I think the ATF would want to know.
by Two Moons on 20 April 2013 - 15:04
There is a big difference between state and federal laws.
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